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I share Durov’s disappointment about where the internet is heading. But I think it’s hypocritical to talk about freedom of speech issues in Western Europe while ignoring similar or worse restrictions in China, Russia, or Dubai, where he lives. It’s similar to Musk’s approach — when Twitter is shut down in Brazil, it’s a freedom of speech violation, but having a Tesla factory in China suddenly makes that problem disap…

Well, Russia has basically never had freedom of speech, except for a brief period in the 1990s, so it contributes nothing to his thesis in the tweet that "once-free countries are introducing dystopian measures."

Makes it weird that he's choosing to live in a never-free country maybe though (as an alternative to living in the other seldom-free country in which he is a citizen).

Re: I'm turning 41, but I don't feel like celebrating

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Nor does he criticise the UAE where he moved to, where of course he gave up free speech for tax benefits. I don’t blame him of course, I’d be terrified to criticise the government if I lived there too.

yup, he can't. He'd be thrown in jail or deported.

Interesting choice of a place to live for someone who is prioritizing freedom of expression?

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He lives in the UAE.

I think for the past couple of years he lives in France. By force, so it's not very straight to recognize it as a free or not.

He mentions on his recent Lex Fridman podcast episode[1] that he lives in Dubai, U.A.E. He expressed fear about France's actions against him.

1. https://youtu.be/qjPH9njnaVU

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Two intelligence assets talking to each other. Both have quite similar backgrounds with dubious credentials. A history of lying and obfuscation. I wouldn't trust anything Fridman or Durov say.

I don't know how anyone sits through ten minutes of Lex speaking let alone multiple hours.

It's a steep learning curve, I concur.

Try to sit through the 5 hours of interview with Carmack if you are a coder, or the interview with Aella, if you are more into humanities.

These two are his crown jewels, IMO.

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Are we talking about kids in a backyard here or about "powerful people", presumably engaged in a political struggle? Has insulting anyone ever stopped anything?

The answer is, unfortunately, yes. The problem is the court of public opinion can easily be swayed by insulting someone, and if that someone can not insult back, that's a political instrument that gives asymmetrical power to the current rulers.

I'm guess I'm too European for this discussion to make a lot of sense.

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> We’ve been made to believe that the greatest fight of our generation is to destroy everything our forefathers left us: tradition, privacy, sovereignty, the free market, and free speech. By betraying the legacy of our ancestors....

Pavel Durov's ancestors include a Red Army soldier who helped pave the way for Soviet control of Eastern Europe. While the content of his message about losing privacy has merit, the appeal to "tradition" and "forefathers" seems like he's speaking to a particular kind of audience.

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Pavel Durov cannot be trusted. He has built his life on lies, created an opaque, highly complex network of companies, and developed a relationship with the Russian regime that is full of inconsistencies, among other things. For starters, he claimed for years that Telegram's headquarters were in Berlin, Germany, when they never were.

Lol lets not even talk about his comical toupee.
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