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Ideas like this shows that there's a power within EU structures that works against us, the citizens.
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The trouble is that the Stasi are not seen in as negative of a light as the Gestapo.
In Germany? I'm not German but the German people I do know don't see them positively. But could be selection bias
I wouldn't expect much from this government. The CDU is legendary known for its umpteenth attempt to introduce illegal data retention (condemned by Germany's highest court). The SPD - which is also part of the ruling coalition - is a flag in the wind as it has proven since coming to power. They will do anything to stay in power. Deep down, Client Side Scanning that's what both want.
SPD has been firmly pro surveillance since Schily
No one should remove from us the right to privacy in chat rooms. Otherwise, PGP might become cool again, or I bet that there will be new ways to chat without mass surveillance.
In a way I am fatalistic about it now/see the good in the bad. If this really comes one day, it will be a great push for decentraliced anonymous communication networks again.
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For some more recent crimes against society and humanity, I'd also compare it to Stasi. Plenty of people alive today who lived with that. Around 1 in 30 people was secretly telling on their neighbors. After unification, it was presented as a dark chapter in German history that had finally come to an end. People would get to look into their own "file" to see what and how much had been written about their daily activit…
The Stasi while more recent and more correct a name to use here are still something not everyone knows about to the same extent as the gestapo.
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> Deep down, Client Side Scanning that's what both want. Let's be absolutely real the CDU wants complete government access to all private communications on demand with essentially endless retention. They just aren't allowed yet.
They have the crosshairs on preparing the government and law for the AfD take over for the second trial of 1933. Just like the useless Bundestag of Weimar, they would like to leave as many mines and holes in the democratic institutions so their true self can show how perfect a racist government feels.
> Under the guise of protecting children, the latest Chat Control proposals would require mass scanning of every message, photo, and video on a person’s device, assessing these via a government-mandated database or AI model to determine whether they are permissible content or not. This is pretty terrifying, although not unexpected. Given Germany's aggressive crackdown on speech I wouldn't feel too optimistic. If the…
I don't think those issues are necessarily interconnected. If I have understood it correctly, many Germans view both hateful propaganda and surveillance as tools of dictators. Surveillance of private communications obviously has a chilling effect on free speech as well, but freedom from surveillance does not imply a freedom to openly spread hate speech in public.
At the end of the day, if someone makes a racist joke with their friend in a one-on-one chat app I would say that's neither hate speech, nor the public distribution of said speech, but I don't think Chat Control makes this distinction.
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Chat Control doesn't prohibit you from using whatever encryption you want, it mandates that your phone snitch on any plaintext that it has access to.
Yeah, I see this argument all over HN. And in a sense it's true that the affront here isn't against math per se, but against general purpose computing. But ultimately, the right to general purpose computing (ie, the right to run a program that doesn't snitch the plaintext) is the same as the right to engage in the underlying mathematics. I think it's a distinction without a meaningful difference.
CSAM isn't likely to be text that can be plaintext, is it? surely it would be image and/or video?