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Answering questions about Android developer verification

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Re: Answering questions about Android developer verification

#101
post #32

Yep, it's as bad as everyone expected it to be. "We aren't taking away sideloading, we're just going to fully control it now! No Google-unapproved code on user devices! For security reasons!" Chrome isn't enough. We need Android to get clawed away from Google too.

Not really though, as you can still install apps over adb without developer verification, same as always.

Not for long.

Re: Answering questions about Android developer verification

#102

However, if you prefer not to, we are also introducing a free developer account type that will allow teachers, students, and hobbyists to distribute apps to a limited number of devices without needing to provide a government ID. So much bullshit, I'm really revolted. They want to pretend that they are nice, it is not locked down. But for real, now you will need to be registered to even only be allowed to have your ap…

> On hardware devices owned by consenting adults, without anything related to Google, or touching their servers, still they allow themselves a right to review Aren’t the changes only for Google certified Android devices, AKA those that come with the play store?

Only? This is everything except Huawei.

Re: Answering questions about Android developer verification

#103
post #56
post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there any evidence that Google plan to do this?

They've made their intentions clear. As soon as third-parties start to use adb for sideloading there's a very good chance they start to lock that down as well.

That is speculation. Is there any evidence?

Re: Answering questions about Android developer verification

#104
android is the notness, and well, so is the whole fucking web next year this time, linuxphon/computer with removable drives and wired periferals ,do the stuff thay needs done, ignore the rest the security theater can continue for those who want it,over there, yes, yes, up against the wall will be fine

Re: Answering questions about Android developer verification

#105
post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not really though, as you can still install apps over adb without developer verification, same as always.

And by what mechanism can you prevent google from disabling adb? Or implementing a situation like iOS where sideloaded dev apps only last for a week and are signed with your personal developer key tied to your credit card? There's nothing to stop them, and absolutely no reason to think they won't take away adb sideloading in the near future.

Google have full control to do this on their Pixel devices by rolling out new firmware with further restrictions - though there is no evidence they plan to do so.

However other vendors that build upon AOSP, such as Samsung, can make their own decisions on this.

Re: Answering questions about Android developer verification

#106
post #84

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Interesting comment. Do you have more information about this please:

> The industry-wide standards for character design, costume design, theming, even mechanics are all set based on these guidelines, which have evolved into ironclad requirements. You will not get funding for your game, nor support or approval from the major platforms (particularly consoles) without complying with these guidelines.

I don't personally play video games but have noticed a lot of disgruntled discourse around things such as "Body Type 1" and "Body Type 2" in lieu of "Male" and "Female" being implemented in new releases. Is that as a result of these guidelines?

Re: Answering questions about Android developer verification

#107
post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not really though, as you can still install apps over adb without developer verification, same as always.

Do you see the direction they're heading? They're now making it so maybe .5% of android users know how to sideload. They're clearly chipping away at it, even though they might not be making all the changes at once.

What fraction of users do you think have a legitimate need to sideload apps on Android? I would imagine it's much less than 0.5%. Developers and technically-minded power users must be a tiny minority amongst Android users given that it has an install base in the billions.

Re: Answering questions about Android developer verification

#108
post #95
post #28

This isn't so bad. Unlike other mobile OSes (namely iOS and HarmonyOS), you will still be able to install whatever you like on Android over a USB debugging connection (adb) without any developer verification. It doesn't take much effort to enable Developer Options, plug into a laptop and run "adb install whatever.apk". It's kind of like the floppy disk era again, having to physically insert things into one's computer…

> It doesn't take much effort to enable Developer Options, plug into a laptop and run "adb install whatever.apk" This is clearly a troll, confirmed by the green username.

Not a troll, just someone who read the article to see what these developer verification changes actually entail.

Re: Answering questions about Android developer verification

#109

However, if you prefer not to, we are also introducing a free developer account type that will allow teachers, students, and hobbyists to distribute apps to a limited number of devices without needing to provide a government ID. So much bullshit, I'm really revolted. They want to pretend that they are nice, it is not locked down. But for real, now you will need to be registered to even only be allowed to have your ap…

> On hardware devices owned by consenting adults, without anything related to Google, or touching their servers, still they allow themselves a right to review Aren’t the changes only for Google certified Android devices, AKA those that come with the play store?

As said by others, first it will be hard to find smartphones without that, especially if it is a requirement to be android certified and be allowed to have the play store running.

But, the biggest trap that we can easily expect is that a lot of apps like banking apps will use Google API to check that they can only run on devices with the check for signatures. Same as the check for rooted devices.

Re: Answering questions about Android developer verification

#110
post #32

Yep, it's as bad as everyone expected it to be. "We aren't taking away sideloading, we're just going to fully control it now! No Google-unapproved code on user devices! For security reasons!" Chrome isn't enough. We need Android to get clawed away from Google too.

Not really though, as you can still install apps over adb without developer verification, same as always.

> you can still install apps over adb

and they will be removed by play protect.

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