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NixOS moderation team resigns over NixOS Steering Committee's interference

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Re: NixOS moderation team resigns over NixOS Steering Committee's interference

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Post by zahlman »

CursedSilicon wrote: post #68
srid wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Jon Ringer (who got permabanned) has a YouTube video talking about several events around NixOS moderation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gp0FI8Gw1iA My own permanban is detailed in this post: https://srid.ca/nixos-mod

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> The fact your blog reveals they banned you for being "anti-woke" is probably the most telling part of this entire discussion

This is an impressive statement. Two people could agree with it for diametrically opposed reasons.

Re: NixOS moderation team resigns over NixOS Steering Committee's interference

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Post by zahlman »

paulvnickerson wrote: post #35

They should take a cue from sqlite and just adopt the Rule of St Benedict.

Funny you should mention that. Meanwhile over in the Ruby camp, where they've been trying to gather signatures to run DHH out on a rail (pun intended), someone submitted a PR to replace the entire "open letter" with that document. (It was of course promptly rejected as a troll, which it was, but I was still amused.)

Re: NixOS moderation team resigns over NixOS Steering Committee's interference

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Post by bbor »

refulgentis wrote: post #99
bbor wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

…I guess I’d just respond by saying that you should reacquaint yourself with the definitions of left vs right. It has nothing to do with what you mentioned. I ask because the python debacle was indeed political — it was rooted in debates about DEI, what constitutes discriminatory speech, and other related issues. No, I was not cheekily hoping to start a fight about politics. Yes, I know how to spell onlookers, as doe…

I'm really curious: can you share these definitions of left and right? > Yes, I know how to spell onlookers, as does my spellchecker. I don’t know what you hope to gain from nitpicking someone’s typos, but I encourage you to answer that question to yourself. Dare I say “nothing”? Geez, didn't know it hurt that much :) I'm 37 and still discover words I mis-spell and am grateful when people correct me. I get the need f…

Pretty funny that you accuse me of being overly political, but then say I'm a far left snowflake for returning a bit of snark. I think I'll have to bow out of this exchange, sorry!

Re: NixOS moderation team resigns over NixOS Steering Committee's interference

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Post by kiitos »

philodeon wrote: post #74
c0nducktr wrote: post #71

Odd nobody wants to give direct examples of the political opinions/statements not allowed. Lots of talk about them, but nobody will just say what they are?

You are not allowed to have a moderate opinion on gender representation in tech, and you are not allowed to have photos of steak on your NixOS discussion forum profile: https://srid.ca/nixos-mod

> https://srid.ca/unwoke

i mean, this is a set of opinions and positions that are far beyond anything that could be called "moderate opinion[s] on gender representation" and are pretty uncontroversially terrible, particularly in the context of any non-homogeneous community of people

if you post something like this to the public internet and stand behind it, then man i'm not sure what you expect, you're self-identifying as an asshole, and it can't be surprising when you're banned from places as a consequence

edit: good lord, i clicked around a bit more on that website, dude is obviously a psychopath, and i feel duped even responding to this kind of nonsense

Re: NixOS moderation team resigns over NixOS Steering Committee's interference

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Post by gigatexal »

Usually when popular projects have this much turmoil there a fork.

Centos stream

Node to deno

Etc etc

Why hasn’t there been a fork of nixos? And the folks who want to do things in a certain politically leaning way gravitate towards that and those that don’t stay. And boom. There’s peace again.

Re: NixOS moderation team resigns over NixOS Steering Committee's interference

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Post by bookshed »

gigatexal wrote: post #105

Usually when popular projects have this much turmoil there a fork. Centos stream Node to deno Etc etc Why hasn’t there been a fork of nixos? And the folks who want to do things in a certain politically leaning way gravitate towards that and those that don’t stay. And boom. There’s peace again.

Imagine Bazite's mascot made a distro, well that distro would be NixOS's fork and it's called Lix (https://lix.systems/). When they kicked Eelco Dolstra out of his project (NixOS) Lix became redundant so they stayed in NixOS. Also google is your friend.

Re: NixOS moderation team resigns over NixOS Steering Committee's interference

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Post by tomohawk »

flykespice wrote: post #77
Modified3019 wrote: post #13

The unelected mods who resigned were refusing accountability being enforced by the elected steering committee, which tells you what you need to know about how the mods ran things. Good riddance, and easily enough replaced.

Yep that would be my conclusion too, we still need to hear the other side of the history

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Re: NixOS moderation team resigns over NixOS Steering Committee's interference

#108

Post by Macha »

paulvnickerson wrote: post #35

They should take a cue from sqlite and just adopt the Rule of St Benedict.

sqlite contributors are a closed group, while NixOS is a project open to contributors. It's a lot easier for 3 people to avoid conflict than 300.

Re: NixOS moderation team resigns over NixOS Steering Committee's interference

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Post by xupybd »

matthewsh wrote: post #83

I've had NixOS on a list to give it a shot one day when I wanna tinker on a weekend project, it's been on that list for quite some time now and just haven't had time for it. I hear good things about the project when I ask other devs, but all I read these days about Nix is about infighting, politics, global bans, governance wrongdoings, and drama. From the outside, this concerns me for the longevity of the project. I'…

Most of the pain in Nix is about getting applications to run and navigating the documentation or lack thereof.

The politics has never impacted me as a nix user.

Re: NixOS moderation team resigns over NixOS Steering Committee's interference

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Post by zahlman »

gigatexal wrote: post #105

Usually when popular projects have this much turmoil there a fork. Centos stream Node to deno Etc etc Why hasn’t there been a fork of nixos? And the folks who want to do things in a certain politically leaning way gravitate towards that and those that don’t stay. And boom. There’s peace again.

Seriously, you'd think NixOS users would rank especially high in willingness to fork something they considered less than ideal.
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