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> Yes, in the literal narrow sense, there is no such thing in the submitted article Therefore your analogy is invalid, because your example is doing something entirely different and throws away nested structs that the whole thing is about. > The point is that the exhibited behaviour is unintuitive, in contrast to what the others are saying. Why? > Did I get that right? No. Let's stick to the original example and add…
> The unintuitive part is that this works in the first place and doesn't throw an error What the hell? So you do agree that it's unintuitive but the supporting points you keep giving are completely, utterly tangential. That's what I have been saying all this time, that it's unintuitive, what you are even disagreeing with me for? The analogy? I repeat this once again, I made the analogy to simplify and make it clear b…
You should really pay more attention to precision of wording and the meaning that it carries, because you keep mixing up different things into one big pile of hand-waving and equating things that are not equal :)
There is no single "it" here. There are two different behaviors here. One is intuitive. One is not. We were discussing the former one. The analogy was about the former one. And the analogy was imprecise and misleading, completely losing different levels of nesting which is the whole point - that's what makes this behavior (short-hand selection when names conflicts - NOT short-hand selection in general) intuitive.
> If you are deeply aware of the quirks, intuition no longer applies. You rely on intuition when you are in an unfamiliar situation
I agree! And what I'm saying is: if you rely on intuition and you don't know about the selector mechanism at all - you will explicitly write out this nested level to access the second-level nested variable (c.Nested.X) and side-step the issue altogether, and accessing the first-level nested variable (c.X) will get you first-level nested variable exactly as you would expect. That's the behavior. That's what we're discussing here. That's what the article is about. That's what everyone calls intuitive - it's not about the short-hand selection itself (which, as I said - is unintuitive, but will not shoot you in the foot, unless you really try).
I don't think I'm getting my point across though, so I suggest we wrap it up here.