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Help us raise $200k to free JavaScript from Oracle

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Re: Help us raise $200k to free JavaScript from Oracle

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Post by kstrauser »

JSR_FDED wrote: post #64
SpaceL10n wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"ecma" doesn't feel right coming out of my mouth or in my ears. Perhaps because it's sound isn't common in the English language? I'm actually struggling to find any other words right now that sounds similar to ecma. But to answer your question, here we all are talking about Deno. Can't say if that was their plan all along or not, but it's working.

I know what you mean, sounds like AcneScript.

EczemaScript, to me.

EcmaScript is high on the list of reasons you don’t let devs name products.

Re: Help us raise $200k to free JavaScript from Oracle

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Post by nchmy »

hu3 wrote: post #98

Oracle probably has a hundred lawyers that make more than $200k per year. If Deno tries to half-ass this case, they will be doing the JavaScript community a disservice by creating court precedent for Oracle.

if they dont do this, there wont be an opportunity for another case..

Re: Help us raise $200k to free JavaScript from Oracle

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Post by Cyykratahk »

nchmy wrote: post #87

The gofundme is now saying $55k target... Which is it?

There is some help text when clicking on the current goal amount:

> If an organiser turns on automated goal setting, GoFundMe adjusts their goal automatically based on the fundraiser’s characteristics and performance. You can see the goal history if GoFundMe has ever made automatic updates.

> To help the organiser reach their goal, we start them at a lower goal and adjust it as donations come in.

Re: Help us raise $200k to free JavaScript from Oracle

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Post by sarchertech »

SOLAR_FIELDS wrote: post #76
r_lee wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Imagine the kind of media attention / clout they'll get for "beating Oracle" etc. They absolutely do get material gains from this, should they succeed. It'd be a much more legitimate effort if they were just asking people to raise funds for e.g. OpenJS to file suit etc.

I want Deno to succeed. They already have enough challenges between bun and Node taking all of their good ideas and incorporating them. I want the ecosystem to have more options. This is Oracle we are talking about here. I would cut off my nose to spite Oracle’s face if necessary, they are some of the worst corporate actors in the history of the world. And that is not an exaggeration.

> they are some of the worst corporate actors in the history of the world. And that is not an exaggeration.

I think that’s an exaggeration. The bar is pretty high (low). The history of the world has The East India Company, The Dutch East India Company, other companies transporting and selling slaves, the various companies that helped carry out The Holocaust, companies directly involved in other genocides, companies directly benefiting from and helping to enforce apartheid, companies pushing opioids, cigarette companies, mining companies etc…

Re: Help us raise $200k to free JavaScript from Oracle

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Post by lagniappe »

Keyframe wrote: post #14
billpg wrote: post #10

I kinda want Oracle to go further and insist that no-one can call it "JavaScript" any more. Let's all it "JS" and completely break from Java. "What does JS stand for?" "It stands for itself."

Let's all it "JS" and completely break from Java or, you know, its alter ego ECMAScript? ES for short.

Nobody likes that name, stop

Re: Help us raise $200k to free JavaScript from Oracle

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Post by mindwok »

notapenny wrote: post #96
glimshe wrote: post #7

[flagged]

Grow up. And accept that both have merit. You may not like it but there's a reason languages, tools, companies, products, whatever become popular. And it isn't just because "people are idiots" or evil companies. Console wars are for teenagers.

Nah. You can be an adult and realise that your feelings don’t mean the world owes you anything, and still think Oracle are a bad company with bad values.

Re: Help us raise $200k to free JavaScript from Oracle

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Post by MangoToupe »

Illniyar wrote: post #42

I don't get the hate here. This is practically a public service and Deno doesn't have any direct or obvious material gains from this. Definitely not more then dozens of other projects (from Chrome to Node.js to Tutorial sites and any company offering something with JS) So what if they are a VC backed company? If you perform a public service, it's fair to ask the public for money. No one is suggesting this money would…

The only possibly related topic that could qualify as a public service would be abolishing trademark. As it is I'd much rather get paid for having to put up with hearing about the damn language.
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