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You Had No Taste Before AI

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Re: You Had No Taste Before AI

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The problem is there is a mindfuck dynamic the arena of taste brings. Popular taste can overwhelm all other taste. A society may not even know they’ve lost taste for a significant amount of time.

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As someone who is colorblind and has some vision issues I take offense to that as I struggle with those design choices. It's clear someone with the ability to distinguish color and clarity designs those sites with no consideration for others.

Re: You Had No Taste Before AI

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> How do consumers discover new products By looking them up when they need them

Sometimes sure, but more often than not they ‘realize’ they need x thing because recently they were told they need x thing. It’s a big oroborous.

TBF trying to sell me on anything with a commercial, print advertisement, video ad, cold call, or anything else is an exercise in frustration.

Re: You Had No Taste Before AI

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Eh, kind of. In a way, AI does not change at all the problem of having taste. There are more books you'll ever read, movies you'll ever watch, games you'll ever play, software you'll ever use. I remain completely unconvinced that "dead internet/dead youtube" is a problem: you had to filter before, you have to filter now. What AI does, being highly weird technology, is that it destroys heuristics. Good English used to…

Yes. Oddly, for once, English majors may actually benefit, because they may be better prepared than most to prepare prompts for the jobs of tomorrow ( mild sarcasm, coffee didn't kick in yet ).

You laugh, but I'm seen as a local/regional expert at prompt engineering in my field because of my background in technical and creative writing learned as an English major. People pay me to help them understand these tools and how to use them in their work. All I'm doing with them is logic and communication.

I have zero idea how the tools work, I'm just really good at communicating in a clear and concise manner when I need to.

Re: You Had No Taste Before AI

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Rephrased: Any artistic direction done in the interest of creating or increasing profits is overwhelmingly likely to be tasteless. I don't think that's particularly controversial. Profitability doesn't imply tastelessness, but profit motive certainly does.

I would argue that if you can't make a profit you have shown you are tasteless. If other people don't enjoy it enough to pay you, that says a lot about how out of step you are.

aren't you then equating taste with popularity ?

not sure if that's a popular opinion. In which case it would be tasteless.

Re: You Had No Taste Before AI

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First we shape our tools, then our tools shape our taste.

That's the interesting part I think. To the next generation of humans the smell of chatgpt text _may_ actually be the smell of good writing. Wouldn't that be a really interesting tragedy of the commons 2.0?

Re: You Had No Taste Before AI

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I very often hear from developers at clients I work with that code they (not me) generate with AI is not of enough "quality". So I ask them what quality means. So far, I only get the most basic feedback: it should be in X style, pass Y linter, have N% coverage, have documentation... At the same time, most, if not all manually written repositories do not pass the newfound quality metrics that must apply to AI code to…

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Re: You Had No Taste Before AI

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By taste we mean distinguishing pretty from ugly (or more subtly, distinguishing patterns related to that.)

Yes, there is an objective reality there. That's basically why some of us are artists and some aren't (that and self-confidence I guess).

It's what guides us when there aren't any obvious signposts around. Good artists, scientists and engineers use this faculty all the time.

Those who lack the faculty just stick to areas with lots of sign posts.

Re: You Had No Taste Before AI

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I would argue that if you can't make a profit you have shown you are tasteless. If other people don't enjoy it enough to pay you, that says a lot about how out of step you are.

aren't you then equating taste with popularity ? not sure if that's a popular opinion. In which case it would be tasteless.

There is no objective measure of taste. Popularity says that at least a lot of other people agree there is taste here.

Re: You Had No Taste Before AI

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I would argue that if you can't make a profit you have shown you are tasteless. If other people don't enjoy it enough to pay you, that says a lot about how out of step you are.

This would make a number of great artists of history "tasteless".

A would agree with that for a number of well known artists often called great.

Re: You Had No Taste Before AI

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“The loudest voices preaching about taste and AI are often the ones who never demonstrated taste before AI.” Yes, and if even these people can tell that AI generated stuff is godawful and tasteless, that tells you everything you need to know about AI.

AI stuff is tasteless in a different sense: It's like food that has no flavor. It "lacks salt" in some non-literal sense. And I think that is not all that surprising, because much of what it was trained on was corporate-speak, which has the same problem.

OTOH I read the success rate is only 50-50 at detecting it. AI text does leave some clues, like those infamous em dashes, but those can be patched with some simple edits. AI images are more obvious because many are intentionally overwrought.
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