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Samsung taking market share from Apple in U.S. as foldable phones gain momentum

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Re: Samsung taking market share from Apple in U.S. as foldable phones gain momentum

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Post by leptons »

lallysingh wrote: post #68
rcarr wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I felt this way at one point and vocally proclaimed as such on here. My Fold 5 developed a bubble under the screen protector after about 18 months. I sent it into Samsung through the website to get it repaired. Whoever "repaired" it, just seemed to slice the screen protector down the middle with an knife so it had a big ugly line down the center. Predictably, it was full of bubbles again within a week. I'm not even b…

I had a fold 3, and now a fold 6. The screen protectors are easily replaceable yourself. It's the only weakness on the phone I've found, and a cheap ($17ish) wear item. The replacement ones I get feel much nicer and thicker than the original.

I love the replacement matte inner screen protector on my fold 4. It's so much better than the glossy screen protector and it was cheap, and easy to install.

Re: Samsung taking market share from Apple in U.S. as foldable phones gain momentum

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Post by zvitiate »

AshamedCaptain wrote: post #80
lallysingh wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had a fold 3, and now a fold 6. The screen protectors are easily replaceable yourself. It's the only weakness on the phone I've found, and a cheap ($17ish) wear item. The replacement ones I get feel much nicer and thicker than the original.

Samsung literally tells you not to replace the inner screen protector yourself.

And the FDA tells you not to cook your steak rare.

Re: Samsung taking market share from Apple in U.S. as foldable phones gain momentum

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Post by _2d30 »

This article seems a bit silly.

If we look at Q3 and Q4 sales, I bet it shows Apple increasing its share of phones shipped.

Comparing one company’s share in a quarter where they launch new devices to another company’s share when that company launched no new devices is, frankly, stupid.

Re: Samsung taking market share from Apple in U.S. as foldable phones gain momentum

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Post by seemaze »

dkobia wrote: post #46

I thought the idea of a folding phone was just a cash grab until I saw someone on the plane across the aisle from me interacting with one. It has been a while since I saw someone get so much enjoyment out of a device. The back and forth between folded and unfolded to read messages and watch movies/read a book was mesmerizing. It made me realize that this form factor could actually enhance the user experience in a mea…

That's curious. Folding phones are in the same bucket as 3D television in my mind.. but I'm probably not the target market.

Re: Samsung taking market share from Apple in U.S. as foldable phones gain momentum

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Post by gopalv »

leobg wrote: post #61
ZeroCool2u wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I genuinely think book reading is the killer app for foldable devices. A bigger screen for a movie or TV is nice to have, but not a game changer. When you have that much screen real estate you can get a really enjoyable experience reading a novel or just easily read a textbook or research paper in a way that's simply not possible on even the largest of what you might consider a typical size phone. Plus, you no longer…

What about book reading requires a large screen? I find my phone much more comfortable to hold than a book. It fits my hand. You only read one sentence at a time anyway. I rather scroll, keeping the current sentence in the middle of the screen than jump around with my eyes in an open book, and having to turn pages, or keeping them flat. Am I missing something? (Real question. I read a lot!)

> You only read one sentence at a time anyway.

Not how I read when I read on paper & this bothers me on a phone a lot.

I'm not functionally dyslexic, but all the words pop out at the same time, you could say I read verbs, then tense, nouns after and then I read adjectives in a sentence.

But English is also my second language, so my first language's grammar probably fits closer.

Oddly enough when I first encountered lisp, the nested pile of map, fold and filter was easier because of the well trained habit of restructuring after reading verbs.

Re: Samsung taking market share from Apple in U.S. as foldable phones gain momentum

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Post by thebruce87m »

hu3 wrote: post #81
thebruce87m wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Don't make it sound like Apple is some sort of victim of regulation who's being picked on the whole time. I didn’t say this. I would merely accept other companies being held to the same standard. > They will not get fines and lawsuits if they make a foldable phone with a display that degrades over time. This will 100% happen. When it does I will come back and post here.

They never got any significant fine for bendgate, "you're holding it wrong", problematic butterfly keyboards or secretly slowing down iphones due to degraded batteries. Am I missing some other blunder?

Antennagate : https://www.theverge.com/2012/2/17/2807511/apple-settles-ant...

Butterfly: https://www.keyboardsettlement.com/

Batterygate: multiple countries. Here’s Canada: https://www.reuters.com/technology/apple-pay-c144-mln-settle... US: https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/11/18/apple-f...

Nothing for bendgate

Yes, a lot of the time they settle, so no admission of guilt but it still costs them money.

Re: Samsung taking market share from Apple in U.S. as foldable phones gain momentum

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Post by pseudocomposer »

ZeroCool2u wrote: post #52
dkobia wrote: post #46

I thought the idea of a folding phone was just a cash grab until I saw someone on the plane across the aisle from me interacting with one. It has been a while since I saw someone get so much enjoyment out of a device. The back and forth between folded and unfolded to read messages and watch movies/read a book was mesmerizing. It made me realize that this form factor could actually enhance the user experience in a mea…

I genuinely think book reading is the killer app for foldable devices. A bigger screen for a movie or TV is nice to have, but not a game changer. When you have that much screen real estate you can get a really enjoyable experience reading a novel or just easily read a textbook or research paper in a way that's simply not possible on even the largest of what you might consider a typical size phone. Plus, you no longer…

I agree with your first paragraph.

For your second, I think you don’t understand why people buy/use iPads. First off, I don’t really know anyone who uses an iPad mini for anything productive (other than as a test device). A 7-9” screen is just not useful compared to a 13” iPad for things like Sidecar or reading sheet music in live performances. The 7-9” screen being an unfolded phone doesn’t change this.

A folding iPhone could eat the iPad mini, but that’s never been a cash cow for Apple or something power users cared about - it’s more of an “iPod touch” for kids. (And frankly, the Switch 2 kind of obsoletes it.) The thing that would eat 13” iPads’ lunch is something more like Apple Vision.

Re: Samsung taking market share from Apple in U.S. as foldable phones gain momentum

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Post by baby »

I switched to Android last year, from being a long time iPhone user, just for the fold. I got the google pixel fold 9 pro. I also got lucky as it's right when all the cool AI integration started (and it sounds like it doesn't really work on Apple).

My first hand experience is that I will probably never be able to go back to a non-folding phone. The ability to get a small tablet on demand anywhere (subway, train, bed, couch, etc.) is really the next technological breakthrough we were waiting for.

I think the pricing and the battery kinda suck, android also doesn't have the same polish as iOS, but most of the criticism that I've read is not really relevant (for example, I can't see the crease at all if I look at my phone)

I use it a lot to read PDFs and watch videos, or when U want to multi task with two apps open at the same time (e.g. filling forms with a pic of my passport on the other screen). I also read mangas from it. Oh and the ability to use the back camera for selfies while being able to see myself is so great I use that all the time.

Re: Samsung taking market share from Apple in U.S. as foldable phones gain momentum

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Post by baby »

seemaze wrote: post #104
dkobia wrote: post #46

I thought the idea of a folding phone was just a cash grab until I saw someone on the plane across the aisle from me interacting with one. It has been a while since I saw someone get so much enjoyment out of a device. The back and forth between folded and unfolded to read messages and watch movies/read a book was mesmerizing. It made me realize that this form factor could actually enhance the user experience in a mea…

That's curious. Folding phones are in the same bucket as 3D television in my mind.. but I'm probably not the target market.

You probably are in the target market but it's hard to understand how life changing it is without having one for at least a day.

Re: Samsung taking market share from Apple in U.S. as foldable phones gain momentum

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Post by baby »

ZeroCool2u wrote: post #52
dkobia wrote: post #46

I thought the idea of a folding phone was just a cash grab until I saw someone on the plane across the aisle from me interacting with one. It has been a while since I saw someone get so much enjoyment out of a device. The back and forth between folded and unfolded to read messages and watch movies/read a book was mesmerizing. It made me realize that this form factor could actually enhance the user experience in a mea…

I genuinely think book reading is the killer app for foldable devices. A bigger screen for a movie or TV is nice to have, but not a game changer. When you have that much screen real estate you can get a really enjoyable experience reading a novel or just easily read a textbook or research paper in a way that's simply not possible on even the largest of what you might consider a typical size phone. Plus, you no longer…

I actually use a single screen to read epubs using my folding phone, mostly use two screens for PDFs, mangas, and videos.
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