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Charlie Kirk killed at event in Utah

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Re: Charlie Kirk killed at event in Utah

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Post by mrtksn »

afavour wrote: post #67

Don't want to talk in bad taste by going to this so early, but... this extremely unfortunate event is going to be a very telling test for the media and society at large. A Democratic state representative in Minnesota was brutally murdered and another attacked by the same man only a couple of months ago, back in June. How many can name them? How long did their deaths stay in the headlines? How much coverage were they…

Think of it as a hardening. From outsider perspective, IMHO your left is very weak and inconsistent and it's not even left from a European perspective.

The far right developed stars, stallions and philosophers that are effective in the popular culture no matter how vile some of those can be. There are up and coming leftist Americans but they will need to hustle to develop intro strong leaders. The mainstream figures from the American left like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez or Bernie Sanders are just too lightweight.

Edit: funny how this comment fluctuates between 0 and 2 points. This edit will probably tip the balance though :)

Re: Charlie Kirk killed at event in Utah

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Post by dfxm12 »

garbthetill wrote: post #22

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I get the good guy vs bad guy with a gun argument

I don't. People are rarely objectively good or bad. Good people can have a bad day. Good people can have a drink or two and turn into bad people. Good people can have their guns stolen from them by bad people. Good people can leave their guns unlocked where their children can find them and do who knows what with them. etc.

Re: Charlie Kirk killed at event in Utah

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Post by ludamn »

nothankyou777 wrote: post #92

People who get excited enough about politics in this country to shoot someone are stupid. Love him or hate him, Charlie is just somebody's puppet. If you see them on twitter or television, they are puppets. Puppeteers are smart enough to stay out of the spotlight. There is only one person in recent memory who was smart enough to go after a puppeteer.

Out of curiosity, who was this person? Which puppeteer they went after?

Re: Charlie Kirk killed at event in Utah

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Post by ken-m »

afavour wrote: post #67

Don't want to talk in bad taste by going to this so early, but... this extremely unfortunate event is going to be a very telling test for the media and society at large. A Democratic state representative in Minnesota was brutally murdered and another attacked by the same man only a couple of months ago, back in June. How many can name them? How long did their deaths stay in the headlines? How much coverage were they…

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Re: Charlie Kirk killed at event in Utah

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Post by diddid »

afavour wrote: post #67

Don't want to talk in bad taste by going to this so early, but... this extremely unfortunate event is going to be a very telling test for the media and society at large. A Democratic state representative in Minnesota was brutally murdered and another attacked by the same man only a couple of months ago, back in June. How many can name them? How long did their deaths stay in the headlines? How much coverage were they…

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Re: Charlie Kirk killed at event in Utah

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Post by shadowgovt »

garbthetill wrote: post #22

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Visited Europe a few years back for the first time.

There was a day when I woke up, a few days into the trip, and felt very, very light. Just "weight off my shoulders" lighter. Oddly euphoric.

Took me a few hours to realized that it was the subconscious realization that it was extremely unlikely that anyone around me, for miles and miles, was armed with a gun.

To answer your question: we survive it the same way any human being under perpetual stress survives it. We get on with our day and we don't even notice how bent-out-of-shape we are until and unless we're in a circumstance where we aren't anymore.

Re: Charlie Kirk killed at event in Utah

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Post by jmdwifvjmrgbj »

afavour wrote: post #67

Don't want to talk in bad taste by going to this so early, but... this extremely unfortunate event is going to be a very telling test for the media and society at large. A Democratic state representative in Minnesota was brutally murdered and another attacked by the same man only a couple of months ago, back in June. How many can name them? How long did their deaths stay in the headlines? How much coverage were they…

This is not totally true. One Democratic representative was killed with her husband. The other representative was shot but survived.

Re: Charlie Kirk killed at event in Utah

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Post by cosmicgadget »

iugtmkbdfil834 wrote: post #70

I have become something of a statist over the years and I apparently annoy a whole lot of people, when I argue for not upsetting the status quo much further. Needless to say, this obviously is not a good thing if you share that perspective with me. This is actual political violence. And it has little to do with guns. If someone really wanted to get to the guy, one would. The issue is further societal deterioration in…

I wonder about the statistics of gun assassinations vs non-gun assasinations.
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