Well, I created my own domain index. I have not crawled every page inside domains, but it is not my goal. I have 1542766 domains. Might not be much, but it is an honest work. It is available as a github repo, so anybody that wants to start crawling has some initial data to kick off. Links https://github.com/rumca-js/Internet-Places-Database
Guy running a Google rival from his laundry room
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Not for a CPU but earlier this year I bought a Thinkpad workstation off eBay for $500. It's a machine from 2020 and when it was new cost $5,700. I see this for pretty much all hardware out on eBay, just go back 5 years and watch the price fall 10x.
Has eBay fixed their "and then they ship you a box of rocks" problem? I feel like there was a five year span where everyone I talked to said buying or selling electronics on eBay was a nightmare, so I'm a little curious if I need to re-evaluate my priors.
I've personally never had that problem after over a decade and hundreds of purchases on eBay. I've had some defective parts, but never outright fraud. IME eBay favors buyers.
Re: Guy running a Google rival from his laundry room
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Have you considered it's a good product that causes its users to become advocates?
Could also be a form of effort justification. [1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effort_justification
Re: Guy running a Google rival from his laundry room
#104I always wondered why someone couldn't do this. Google was invented many years ago by two guys in a dorm room and since then there's been so many white papers and advancements in the public sphere and the actual underlying problem has not changed that much, that it seems like it could be done by a small group or independent person.
I think there are two factors that helped Google. First, the search engine landscape back then was absolutely abysmal. I'm sure someone will chime in saying that it's abysmal today as well, but the reality is that 99%+ of consumer searches get good results today. And that's simply because the nature of search has changed: we have billions of people using the internet, and they overwhelmingly just search for products…
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#105Re: Guy running a Google rival from his laundry room
#106Well, I created my own domain index. I have not crawled every page inside domains, but it is not my goal. I have 1542766 domains. Might not be much, but it is an honest work. It is available as a github repo, so anybody that wants to start crawling has some initial data to kick off. Links https://github.com/rumca-js/Internet-Places-Database
Re: Guy running a Google rival from his laundry room
#107I always wondered why someone couldn't do this. Google was invented many years ago by two guys in a dorm room and since then there's been so many white papers and advancements in the public sphere and the actual underlying problem has not changed that much, that it seems like it could be done by a small group or independent person.
The actual underlying problem has changed altogether. Pagerank is easily gamed by SEO. Search candidates and rankings now require assessment by LLM. Moreover, as a default, users want the results intelligently synthesized into a text response with references rather than as raw results. Crawling too requires innovative approaches to bypass server filters. I doubt any independent person can afford to run a vector datab…
This leads directly to another big change.
People used to submit their sites to search engines and now they might actively block search engines. So a search engine author might have to spend a lot of effort in adversarial games.
Re: Guy running a Google rival from his laundry room
#108Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not for a CPU but earlier this year I bought a Thinkpad workstation off eBay for $500. It's a machine from 2020 and when it was new cost $5,700. I see this for pretty much all hardware out on eBay, just go back 5 years and watch the price fall 10x.
Has eBay fixed their "and then they ship you a box of rocks" problem? I feel like there was a five year span where everyone I talked to said buying or selling electronics on eBay was a nightmare, so I'm a little curious if I need to re-evaluate my priors.
A 7532 CPU is now ewaste for all the datacenters out there 1/10 of original price is reasonable, but the latest Nvidia GPU for 200 bucks is obviously a scam.
Re: Guy running a Google rival from his laundry room
#109"The beefy CPU running this setup, a 32-core AMD EPYC 7532, underlines just how fast technology moves. At the time of its release in 2020, the processor alone would have cost more than $3,000. It can now be had on eBay for less than $200" why do I never get deals like that when I am shopping for the homelab on eBay?
I searched "AMD EPYC 7532" and there are a ton of listings for $150-$200. Are you just regretful that it wasn't like this when you were shopping parts for your homelab?
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You mean all the users of chat services aren't evidence? Chat services increasingly incorporate web links for references in their responses, and this is as the users seek. The tide continues to shift from traditional search to LLM synthesis.
I suspect there are more users of traditional search than there are of llm chat apps.