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Re: iPhone 17 Pro and iPhone 17 Pro Max

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I regret “upgrading” from iPhone 12 to 16. Ended up spending over $1k on a separate camera because the iPhone 16’s is so much worse it ruined my favorite hobby of taking scenery photos while cycling. Think I’m done with Apple phones after that one.

What was worse?

The camera. I dislike the camera on the 16 so much I bought a handheld camera. Previously I had loved the 12’s camera. Massive step backward.

Re: iPhone 17 Pro and iPhone 17 Pro Max

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It's not because your work gives you the opportunity to get a new iPhone that you *need* to get one... you can also downscale the consumerism, the planet is better that way

It's not because the site gives you a reply button that you need to press it... you can also downscale the server & energy usage, the "planet" is better that way

If you think those 2 things are even close to comparable I've got a bridge to sell you

Re: iPhone 17 Pro and iPhone 17 Pro Max

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I get a new iPhone as a work phone bi-yearly, and get to pick the model, with co-pay for anything above the most basic one (currently 16E). In a month or so, it'll be that time again. Last time I went with the non-Pro option was 6 years ago with the 11. Back then I regretted it, it was a clear downgrade from my previous iPhone X (which I consider the first "Pro" iPhone) - largely because of the screen, 11's LCD reall…

doesn't lidar help with closeup focusing? I got lots of blurry closeups on older iphones.

Focusing has been quite messy for me since they introduced auto-switchinig to macro mode.

Re: iPhone 17 Pro and iPhone 17 Pro Max

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The year of the 11 lineup was the one year where the standard iPhone was a clear downgrade from last year's. It was a refresh of the iPhone XR from the previous year, which was the budget option compared to the flagship XS.

Yes, and the XS was the follow-up to the previous X and thus also the "Pro" model, before they were explicitly named as such. So my move that year was indeed a downgrade. Now I'm kind of worried of doing the same thing again - but spec-wise, the base 17 is really not at all a downgrade from my current 15 Pro, apart from the camera department.

Base iPhone 17 is the first year since the Pros existed where I think most people are not missing out by getting the non-pro.

I'm certainly not a photographer but I got the 16 Pro because of ProMotion. If I were upgrading this year, I'd probably go for the standard 17 because it finally has practically everything a standard user could expect.

Re: iPhone 17 Pro and iPhone 17 Pro Max

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They're removing black to force people to either upgrade, or make it painfully obvious to their peers that they're using an old phone. That's what you do when there is nothing new in your phone this year. Status signaling and fashion.

Or it could be like the white iPhone 4... delayed because of problems with the finish. It's obvious to anyone given the radical new design that you have an iPhone 16 Pro or not. That's not the reason for removing black. They'd have removed silver for the same reason if it was.

There’s no 16 Pro silver. Design changes are one half, colors are the other half. In total, people know you have a new phone or an old phone.

Re: iPhone 17 Pro and iPhone 17 Pro Max

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post #105

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Or it could be like the white iPhone 4... delayed because of problems with the finish. It's obvious to anyone given the radical new design that you have an iPhone 16 Pro or not. That's not the reason for removing black. They'd have removed silver for the same reason if it was.

There’s no 16 Pro silver. Design changes are one half, colors are the other half. In total, people know you have a new phone or an old phone.

There's a white titanium and natural titanium which is silver-like

Re: iPhone 17 Pro and iPhone 17 Pro Max

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>for getting the increased zoom you're getting 4x optical zoom (going down from 5x on 16 pro) and then 2x software zoom. Not bad, but not more optical zoom... and that bump has again lens bumps, uneven, and the cases are really fugly and large

It's not software zoom -- it's them doing binned pixels at 4x and then unbinning them and cropping down at 8x. Same thing they were doing on previous models for the 2x zoom, and now unlocked on the telephoto lens because of the resolution increase this year. It's a quality drop for sure, but it's never extrapolating pixels that weren't optically there as software zoom does.

ok not "software" zoom, but still not optical zoom per se. The marketing guys hard at work
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