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Unofficial Windows 11 requirements bypass tool allows disabling all AI features

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Re: Unofficial Windows 11 requirements bypass tool allows disabling all AI features

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Post by suby »

everdrive wrote: post #96
picafrost wrote: post #20

There is something so fundamentally gross about Microsoft's vision of what role an operating system should serve. That there is an aftermarket of software that attempts to disable (but cannot remove!) the invasive dark patterns is alarming enough, but Microsoft may simply just... undo that, with the next unstoppable update. Then again, this is the company that answered complaints about Windows being bad for developme…

This pattern is actually how I decide whether or not a piece of software is worthwhile. First Windows install, what do you do? spend an hour or so attempting to disable or remove all the junk being pushed on you and fix terrible default settings. It's been a while for me with Windows, so I haven't had to battle with the online account requirement, Onedrive, etc. But, the general pattern remains. If an OS or software…

I don't think the notion is always true of something being pushed on you automatically being bad for you. I agree that Windows is very user hostile, but something like mandatory updates where you cannot defer forever are good for less technical folks who, prior to this policy, were never updating and we had huge problems with botnets and malware running on people's machines. In a way it is like herd immunity where you benefit a bit from these botnet malware rings being less prominent than the past thanks to aggressive auto updates, even if you personally hate the policy and it's an annoyance to you. Or for another similar example, people going to remote parts of the world to vaccinate people to eradicate diseases like polio - things can be pushed on you, sometimes aggressively, and they can be a net benefit.

That being said, I do agree that windows is user hostile and i won't run it myself.

Re: Unofficial Windows 11 requirements bypass tool allows disabling all AI features

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Post by [deleted] »

hnlmorg wrote: post #87
wizzwizz4 wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Those are runtime environments provided by DLLs (requiring recompilation), not Wine-like translation layers. WSL 1 was something special, and it says something that Microsoft ditched it in favour of "we've invented virtual machines for the very first time!!!".

It’s been a while since I’ve played with Cygwin and I do recall there were a lot of stuff compiled for Windows, but couldn’t it also run Linux software run natively too? Admittedly back then I was working for a place that mainly developed in Perl, so I didn’t port a whole lot of ELFs across. So maybe I’m misremembering

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Re: Unofficial Windows 11 requirements bypass tool allows disabling all AI features

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Post by dangus »

vivzkestrel wrote: post #37
QQ00 wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

for no telemetry and half the bloatware you can always use the enterprise version. it's also (n)x the price. there also the iot version which is more stripped down and get only security updates, no features updates or other craps. I don't think we will ever see a new version the way you described it, the amount of information Microsoft get from spying and telemetry is so much more profitable they even gave 10/11 for…

i want to be able to run games on it without a 100 programs running in the background. if Microsoft engineers really put their mind to it, they could create such an OS offering dedicated for gaming with literally nothing consuming your CPU and FPS except the game you are running

Have you tried gaming on Linux? There really isn’t much reason not to these days. I find it difficult to find games that don’t work in Linux these days.

Re: Unofficial Windows 11 requirements bypass tool allows disabling all AI features

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Post by resonious »

I recently decided to try running Windows as a daily driver. WSL is pretty good but just feels wrong. It has a slow cold start and sometimes just completely crashes or freezes for a few seconds. Basic operations in general (outside WSL) often take several seconds. The Copilot button feels forced but I decided whatever I'll try it - the copilot window takes almost 10 seconds to start up on first press. What is going on? It's just a chat interface..

Then there's that super old problem where the settings app opens in a tiny window and cannot be resized.

What's interesting is the feedback app once asked me about how long things take and if I'm satisfied. So it seems they're kind of aware. But the problem is probably too deep to dig out of.

Re: Unofficial Windows 11 requirements bypass tool allows disabling all AI features

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Post by delta_p_delta_x »

Windows is technically very interesting. It offers a very different approach to operating systems compared to the UNIX-like competition. I genuinely like it because unlike Linux, it's quite nice to develop desktop applications for, because the vendor supports everything.

It's such a pity that said vendor is a giant American megacorp that decided to throw all that in the bin and stuff Windows with ad-infested light Web apps. It irritates me that the user-mode applications and experience is so cancerous, because everything below is pretty decent to work with.

Re: Unofficial Windows 11 requirements bypass tool allows disabling all AI features

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Post by dangus »

wtallis wrote: post #30
picafrost wrote: post #20

There is something so fundamentally gross about Microsoft's vision of what role an operating system should serve. That there is an aftermarket of software that attempts to disable (but cannot remove!) the invasive dark patterns is alarming enough, but Microsoft may simply just... undo that, with the next unstoppable update. Then again, this is the company that answered complaints about Windows being bad for developme…

> answered complaints about Windows being bad for development by embedding an OS that is good for development and calling that an innovation Well, they actually did it twice in recent history: WSL 1 was relatively innovative, integrating Linux application compatibility into the Windows operating system itself. But that turned out to still be bad for development because it meant Linux software was now subjected to the…

This begs the question of why Microsoft doesn’t just transition Windows to being a commercial Linux distribution, especially now that Windows licenses are so much less important to Microsoft’s business than they used to be.

Re: Unofficial Windows 11 requirements bypass tool allows disabling all AI features

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Post by dangus »

nickjj wrote: post #83
sixtyj wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This. The worst death is from fright. So let’s keep calm. Because Win 10 will work after October 2025.

I wonder if MS will extend the deadline, especially since there's unofficial tools bypassing their restrictions. I remember last year when they announced removing a major MS Teams connector around webhook integrations. In July 2024 they said in August 2024 this feature would be disabled for new apps and then in October 2024 all integrations would stop working. This would effectively break a ton of 3rd party integrati…

MS will absolutely extend the deadline, or otherwise make it meaningless. The install base of windows 10 is too high.

My prediction is that instead of extending support forever like XP and 7, Windows 10 will be “unsupported” but it’ll still get security patches for a long time.

The “unsupported” nature of the OS will only matter to corporate auditors. Consumers will be using Windows 10 for years longer.

Re: Unofficial Windows 11 requirements bypass tool allows disabling all AI features

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Post by dangus »

Aurornis wrote: post #11
ChrisNorstrom wrote: post #3

I'm honestly still shocked there isn't some kind of lawsuit or federal investigation on how Microsoft is able to get away with dropping support for CPUs that are only a few years old. Thus forcing unknown millions of people worldwide to upgrade an ENTIRE CPU and Motherboard just for the next version of Windows. What are we supposed to do with all that e-waste?! People who spent thousands on a 32 core threadripper fro…

If you’re talking about Threadripper 2000 series, just grab the official ISO and install it. Should work despite not being on the officially fully supported list. > I'm honestly still shocked there isn't some kind of lawsuit or federal investigation on how Microsoft is able to get away with dropping support for CPUs that are only a few years old. There is no law that requires a company to make their new product compa…

I’m honestly surprised that anyone with 9+ year old hardware would want to run Windows 11 at all.

This kind of user isn’t exactly jumping on the latest Windows version. They’re going to be using Windows 10 until their hardware dies and they’ll “upgrade” when their next machine comes with the current Microsoft OS.

I personally don’t think the end of “support” for Windows 10 will have any meaning. There are too many users still using it for Microsoft to stop patching it. The “unsupported” status will only matter to companies who want to pass audits.

Re: Unofficial Windows 11 requirements bypass tool allows disabling all AI features

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Post by ndsipa_pomu »

dangus wrote: post #107
wtallis wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> answered complaints about Windows being bad for development by embedding an OS that is good for development and calling that an innovation Well, they actually did it twice in recent history: WSL 1 was relatively innovative, integrating Linux application compatibility into the Windows operating system itself. But that turned out to still be bad for development because it meant Linux software was now subjected to the…

This begs the question of why Microsoft doesn’t just transition Windows to being a commercial Linux distribution, especially now that Windows licenses are so much less important to Microsoft’s business than they used to be.

That'd be a lot of work for no gain and substantial loss of control (due to GPL). How are they going to force adverts onto people if it becomes easy to just run a script to remove them?
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