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Re: Kenvue stock drops on report RFK Jr will link autism to Tylenol during pregnancy

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Was replying to a commented which was downvoted to death entirely unfairly, so I'll paste my reply as a new comment: Paracetamol/acetaminophen (the active ingredient in tylenol) is super toxic to the liver. Lots of people overdose on it, some by accident and some deliberately. As little as FOUR GRAMS can cause jaundice and fuck up your liver. If you have a fever, taking 1 gram every couple of hours might seem entirel…

So in summary: taking 4x the recommended dose of a medication is dangerous? How many other medications would that apply to? Countless, I imagine. That’s why we have dosages on every bottle.

paracetamol is unusual in this respect, that the toxic dose is so close to the therapeutic dose, but the benefits outweigh the risks.

after I had dental surgery, I took paracetamol and ibuprofen in alternate doses every 4h - I would have been in screaming pain if I couldn't have both as an option.

Re: Kenvue stock drops on report RFK Jr will link autism to Tylenol during pregnancy

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The entire medical community is doing their impression of Shaggy, i.e. "it wasn't me!" But there are thousands of suffering parents and children and this lack of empathy really does nothing for no one. Another hand-wavy response I have heard is that given the new Autism Spectrum diagnosis, many more kids are now diagnosed with autism. That being said, none has even come up with a reasonably derived estimate saying th…

>lack of empathy

True. Infact I'd go so far as to say the medical community causes many of the health problem.

Speaking about empathy most people don't have it, not just the medical community. Even the victims will be victimizers at some point, it's very twisted situation.

( Btw, you have a very obvious pseudonym...)

Re: Kenvue stock drops on report RFK Jr will link autism to Tylenol during pregnancy

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do they? Or is it, perhaps, possible that, if there is indeed a real increase in the rate of autism, it's because of something that has nothing to do with our modern pharmaceuticals? Could it perhaps be related to the increases in various kinds of air pollution? Water pollution? Pesticides or herbicides in our foods? Or even the dramatic increase in EM signals being broadcast everywhere? Until there are reputable stu…

There’s a marked increase in mental illnesses diagnosed. My parents were heavily depressed and anxious, but in their day it was taboo to seek help and admit such a diagnosis. We are so much more sophisticated today.

> There’s a marked increase in mental illnesses diagnosed.

There was a marked increase in left-handedness once the 'stigma' of it was removed.

Re: Kenvue stock drops on report RFK Jr will link autism to Tylenol during pregnancy

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its so popular people will take it for mild inconveniences, which is absolutely not what you should do.

Why not?

Stresses the liver, also if its used frequently for mild inconveniences you should maybe go to the doctor, as frequent headaches or stuff like that can hint to more severe stuff.

Re: Kenvue stock drops on report RFK Jr will link autism to Tylenol during pregnancy

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The entire medical community is doing their impression of Shaggy, i.e. "it wasn't me!" But there are thousands of suffering parents and children and this lack of empathy really does nothing for no one. Another hand-wavy response I have heard is that given the new Autism Spectrum diagnosis, many more kids are now diagnosed with autism. That being said, none has even come up with a reasonably derived estimate saying th…

Do they? Or is it, perhaps, possible that, if there is indeed a real increase in the rate of autism, it's because of something that has nothing to do with our modern pharmaceuticals? Could it perhaps be related to the increases in various kinds of air pollution? Water pollution? Pesticides or herbicides in our foods? Or even the dramatic increase in EM signals being broadcast everywhere? Until there are reputable stu…

“Could it perhaps be related to the increases in various kinds of air pollution? Water pollution? Pesticides or herbicides in our foods?”

The West is on a decreasing trend of all those kind of pollution since the 70s.

“Or even the dramatic increase in EM signals being broadcast everywhere?”.

It’s funny people are entertaining the hypothesis that EM radiation causes autism in the same conversation where they are trying to assure you that a drug that’s increasingly taken by pregnant women and that is proven to pass the placenta, is 100% harmless and can’t have anything to do with increased levels of autism.

Re: Kenvue stock drops on report RFK Jr will link autism to Tylenol during pregnancy

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Was replying to a commented which was downvoted to death entirely unfairly, so I'll paste my reply as a new comment: Paracetamol/acetaminophen (the active ingredient in tylenol) is super toxic to the liver. Lots of people overdose on it, some by accident and some deliberately. As little as FOUR GRAMS can cause jaundice and fuck up your liver. If you have a fever, taking 1 gram every couple of hours might seem entirel…

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Re: Kenvue stock drops on report RFK Jr will link autism to Tylenol during pregnancy

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The entire medical community is doing their impression of Shaggy, i.e. "it wasn't me!" But there are thousands of suffering parents and children and this lack of empathy really does nothing for no one. Another hand-wavy response I have heard is that given the new Autism Spectrum diagnosis, many more kids are now diagnosed with autism. That being said, none has even come up with a reasonably derived estimate saying th…

Do they? Or is it, perhaps, possible that, if there is indeed a real increase in the rate of autism, it's because of something that has nothing to do with our modern pharmaceuticals? Could it perhaps be related to the increases in various kinds of air pollution? Water pollution? Pesticides or herbicides in our foods? Or even the dramatic increase in EM signals being broadcast everywhere? Until there are reputable stu…

>Until there are reputable studies that can actually show something resembling a causal link,

Wrong approach. You prove that something is safe first (and there are ways to do it, one has to creative though) and then have people use it. One does not introduce something in the population and then trying to prove a causal link through stats. There are too many variable and it becomes easy to pass the buck by massaging numbers.

Re: Kenvue stock drops on report RFK Jr will link autism to Tylenol during pregnancy

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Was replying to a commented which was downvoted to death entirely unfairly, so I'll paste my reply as a new comment: Paracetamol/acetaminophen (the active ingredient in tylenol) is super toxic to the liver. Lots of people overdose on it, some by accident and some deliberately. As little as FOUR GRAMS can cause jaundice and fuck up your liver. If you have a fever, taking 1 gram every couple of hours might seem entirel…

Without chronic ingestion of medications that compete for glucuronidation or certain CYP450 inducers like antiepileptics, FOUR GRAMS even as a single dose is virtually impossible to cause any harm.

One gram every 2 hours is 12 grams which is on the lower end of toxic doses.

Despite common belief, concurrent alcohol consumption surprisingly does not increase risk, since alcohol competes for CYP2E1 and reduces the rate of production of the toxic metabolite NAPQI. Similarly for chronic liver disease. The use of NSAIDS (ibuprofen, etc) with cirrhosis is absolutely less safe than tylenol at therapeutic doses.

Re: Kenvue stock drops on report RFK Jr will link autism to Tylenol during pregnancy

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Why are doctors telling women that it's okay to take Tylenol during pregnancy in the first place? Everything they put in their bodies can have an effect on the baby so medication for pregnant mothers should be severely limited. Why haven't we learned from the Thalidomide scandal? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thalidomide_scandal Tylenol only helps for minor aches and pains that frankly, pregnant mothers should just d…

This is just another far-right ideological attempt at restricting women's bodily autonomy - this time the angle just happens to be nonscientific fearmongering about medicines.
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