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Re: Nuclear: Desktop music player focused on streaming from free sources

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It's a real project. I use this to stream my music

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In the future teens are going to put their music through the yt encoding to get that authentic 2010-20s feeling.

Re: Nuclear: Desktop music player focused on streaming from free sources

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What's really a meme is: " I got 32 GB of RAM, who cares? " I see a parallel with networked services being developed and tested under "works for me" lab conditions without latency, jitter, or reduced bandwidth. "It works fine on my 10 Gbps network, who cares about 2 extra MB of Javascript?" For one, because the very moment you have that line of thought, you're probably already an outlier.

You would be hard-pressed today to find computers with less than 8 GB of RAM. 300 MB is 3.66% of 8 GB of RAM. Which, again, is absolutely nothing. Okay, let's assume you have a computer with 4 GB of RAM. Still 7.32%. That is low.

The overwhelming number of personal computing devices in active use are Stop being greedy, even if it existed as you say, externalising your development cost by having higher runtime requirements is a mild form of resource exploitation for profit.

Re: Nuclear: Desktop music player focused on streaming from free sources

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Testimonials on the main website are somewhat unusual - https://nuclearplayer.com/

>As a musician, fuck everything about this Pretty wild to include a comment like this in the testimonials. Sure, you can disagree with the musician on philosophical terms over IP laws and many consumers will always prefer "free", but to put this in your testimonials shows that the developers take pride in the act of pissing off musicians. That just rubs me the wrong way.

Fairly sure it's just a joke. Who takes testimonials on a products website seriously anyway?

Re: Nuclear: Desktop music player focused on streaming from free sources

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> When pressed for reasons what exactly is so bad about Electron, they can rarely offer anything than vaguely mumbled "memory usage" or "b-but it's an entire browser" (both of which have not been true for years, for example Electron's memory usage has improved dramatically, but the meme stuck) I downloaded Nuclear (the AppImage, if that matters) and booted it up. Instant 300MB RAM usage. I think I'll pass.

FWIW: That’s way less than gnome calculator used the last time I installed Ubuntu. At least this thing is not using snap or flatpack or whatever.

Re: Nuclear: Desktop music player focused on streaming from free sources

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It's completely understandable not just for the usual streaming services (like youtube, etc.) and the grievances there (payouts per play, whichever way it goes, be it that artists getting stiffed or people refusing to come up with even a fraction of a cent), but for something like bandcamp as well, which is kind of 'almost but not quite a streaming service' and more accurately described in a literal way like 'it lets…

This bypasses the ads of YouTube Music which means that artists are not being compensated for their work.

That is a detail which is the responsibility of the artist as a businessperson. If you give away pizza with a big stack of ad flyers, no one would complain when that business doesn't make that much money because no one reads the ad flyers all they do is eat the pizza and toss the ads.

We live in a world where said pizza shops want to force you to look at each flyer in the ad stack, but for years they didn't sit you down and make you look with your eyes, instead they just let you take the ads and the pizza and leave. They're trying to crank up the pressure to watch saying "the cooks deserve to be paid" and "you have to let us watch you look at the flyers to eat the pizza, or else you can't leave with the pizza."

Don't be fooled, if the musicians didn't want folks to listen on YouTube then they wouldn't put their music there. If you can find a way to look away from the flyers while still eating the pizza, you are not the bad person. Eat and weep for a world where we can't just exchange money for food.

Re: Nuclear: Desktop music player focused on streaming from free sources

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>As a musician, fuck everything about this Pretty wild to include a comment like this in the testimonials. Sure, you can disagree with the musician on philosophical terms over IP laws and many consumers will always prefer "free", but to put this in your testimonials shows that the developers take pride in the act of pissing off musicians. That just rubs me the wrong way.

When I read the testimonials, my take was the developers are not taking themselves too seriously. It felt well for me. They are not trying to sell one perspective, and not hiding what haters tell too. I suppose I find this refreshing.

That's my impression as well. It doesn't exactly seem like bragging nor "oh look what we are doing and we don't give af"

Re: Nuclear: Desktop music player focused on streaming from free sources

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Comparing copying data to battery/assault is wild

Your misunderstanding of the point is wild. It’s not a comparison to battery/assault. It’s a reframing of the interaction to help understand the relationship at play here.

Re: Nuclear: Desktop music player focused on streaming from free sources

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I don't think anybody can be religiously opposed to Electron any more. It's pervasive.

These days if a program is made with Electron, I'll either just use the hosted website version (ie discord.gg), or not use the program at all. 120mb+ releases for this program isn't an argument in Electron's favor.

Re: Nuclear: Desktop music player focused on streaming from free sources

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Then maybe we'll never see eye-to-eye. I grew up with an iTunes account, but I never spent my money on music. Some weeks my family lived paycheck-to-paycheck, some nights skipping dinner. I downloaded my music off YouTube to my 2005 HP Compaq, put it on my iTunes library and synced it to my iPod Shuffle. Didn't weigh on my conscience when I pirated video games or FL Studio either, not then and not now. If that made m…

Our legal and economic systems just don’t work that way, being poor is no excuse for doing something illegal. Add to that that not all musicians are Beyoncé or Taylor Swift, but might just as well have to fight to survive, living from Spotify payout to gig revenue as well. I sympathise with people trying to get access to culture by all means, but we cannot wholesale morally legitimise freeloading because of that. We…

> Our legal and economic systems just don’t work that way, being poor is no excuse for doing something illegal.

Copyright infringement is a civil offense, not criminal. Or in other jurisdictions, it’s not an offense at all, but rather priced in to the costs of recordable media and storage media/devices.

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