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When the sun will literally set on what's left of the British Empire

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Re: When the sun will literally set on what's left of the British Empire

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To be satisfyingly pedantic, my King isn’t the same King. Mine is the King of Canada. It just happens to be the same person as the King of England and the King of Australia ;)

Do you have different rules for succession to where it might eventually be a different person?

No I believe we have a "rule of recognition" where our monarch is just whoever the UK's monarch is.

Re: When the sun will literally set on what's left of the British Empire

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We do not have the same king. The King of Great Brittan is not the King of Canada, they just happen to be the same person. Is the US also part of the British Empire?

Canada is no longer part of the British Empire. Neither is the US, since the end of the War of Independence. That’s what independence means.

Great, tell ozim that.

Re: When the sun will literally set on what's left of the British Empire

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We do not have the same king. The King of Great Brittan is not the King of Canada, they just happen to be the same person. Is the US also part of the British Empire?

Obviously not as US does not have king in their legal system at all.

And the UK has no influence on Canadian governance.

Re: When the sun will literally set on what's left of the British Empire

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I’m unfamiliar, what’s the trouble in keeping them? I thought they’d long ago evicted the natives, and more or less handed the islands over to the Americans—does this move relieve them of either of those headaches? Is the idea that Chagossian repatriation now becomes a Mauritian problem? Had the British been taking that problem particularly seriously? Or more to do with the British not really wanting to be caught bet…

It's a constant source of legal action and negative news. There's not any strategic need for the UK to keep an island in the Indian Ocean. Might as well get rid of the whole mess for someone else to sort out.

I'm sure that showing ourselves as happy to be bullied into paying to give up territory by legal action and negative news will in no way give anyone else ideas about what might be a good way to get stuff they want from us

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Do you think citizens of Hong Kong would choose the Chinese rule of today, or go back to British rule if they could?

Do you think they would have chose British rule when it first began?

Almost no one lived there at the time. Look at photos of how Hong Kong transformed under British rule

Re: When the sun will literally set on what's left of the British Empire

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Does their king have any more hard powers in Canada or Australia than, say, Taylor Swift or some other rich celebrity?

In 1975 the British Queen instructed her representative the governor general to dismiss the Australian prime minister, dissolving the Australian parliament. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1975_Australian_constitution... In principle this power still exists. Whether Charles could pull off the same trick depends on the political situation on the ground.

I don't think the Queen instructed the Governor General to do that. He made the decision.

I'm old enough to remember it and remember a statement from the palace saying something like "The Queen is watching events in Australia with interest" but I don't think she took an active part.

I quick search reveals this. I don't know this site but if true then some letters seem to confirm the above. She told the GG to obey the Australian Constitution.

https://constitution-unit.com/2020/07/16/palace-letters-show...

Re: When the sun will literally set on what's left of the British Empire

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>That was over a decade ago. You make me feel old >In June 2019, millions took to the streets again in massive pro-democracy protests. This was only 6 years ago. >Hong Kongers ages 35 and older are more likely than their younger counterparts to feel very close to China. That's the exact opposite of what you claim. I agree they'll likely succeed in the end but they have not yet made HK just another part of China.

> You make me feel old I watched the changeover live on TV in my 20s. :) >> Hong Kongers ages 35 and older are more likely than their younger counterparts to feel very close to China. > That's the exact opposite of what you claim. No, it's not. What I said was young people have been growing up with propaganda, and of the people who were there for the changeover and remember it (people over 35), the ones who don't lik…

That's a possible explanation, but I'm not completely convinced it is without numbers. Maybe it's those under 35 who don't remember the bad of the British rule?

But even then, less than 50% of people under 35 call themselves Chinese (not even both Hong Konger and Chinese). And half of the adults call China a major threat, 22% a minor threat. Those are pretty bad numbers for indoctrination.

Re: When the sun will literally set on what's left of the British Empire

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As an outsider I consider Canada and Australia - British Empire. Hard to think otherwise as they have the same king.

To be satisfyingly pedantic, my King isn’t the same King. Mine is the King of Canada. It just happens to be the same person as the King of England and the King of Australia ;)

Some friends and I started playing Crusader Kings 2 recently. If anyone wants a thorough education in the weirdness of feudal monarchy, I highly recommend it, half the game is manipulating weird inheritance laws/scenarios to grow your holdings.
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