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New research reveals longevity gains slowing, life expectancy of 100 unlikely

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Re: New research reveals longevity gains slowing, life expectancy of 100 unlikely

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Post by BriggyDwiggs42 »

keiferski wrote: post #17

It is ironic that many of the people obsessed with life extension are also those deeply involved in creating systems that deliberately waste the time we already do have, via addictive algorithms, clickbait content, unnecessary consumerism, etc. “It is not that we have a short time to live, but that we waste a lot of it. Life is long enough, and a sufficiently generous amount has been given to us for the highest achie…

Well sure but we waste it for circumstantial reasons. Wisdom is scarce by definition. Denying people a second chance because they messed up with literally zero information isn’t something we should condone.

Re: New research reveals longevity gains slowing, life expectancy of 100 unlikely

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Post by BriggyDwiggs42 »

tristramb wrote: post #18
adastra22 wrote: post #4

There is no physical/chemical/biological reason you can’t live indefinitely with the health and vitality of a 25-35 year old. Aging isn’t a law of nature.

But that doesn't mean that it will be economically feasible.

The cost of tech tends to fall as a rule. Why wouldn’t it eventually become feasible?

Re: New research reveals longevity gains slowing, life expectancy of 100 unlikely

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Post by melling »

Swizec wrote: post #2

What about quality of life adjusted life years? I don’t want to live to 100 and be miserable for the last 30 But if you can get me 90 years where I feel like a spring chicken until 89, then that’s just fine.

Yes, the term is “health span” and that’s basically what everyone is talking about every single time you read an article on the subject.

Re: New research reveals longevity gains slowing, life expectancy of 100 unlikely

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Post by qgin »

markus_zhang wrote: post #42

I think it’s fine. When I get older I’m more intrigued whether there is an afterlife, whatever it is.

When you have general anesthesia, you experience nothing, not even the vague sense of time passing like when sleeping, it's just an edit in time. You basically don't exist when you're under general anesthesia.

If a little propofol in my brain can make me not exist, I'm pretty sure when I don't even have a brain I will definitely not exist.

Re: New research reveals longevity gains slowing, life expectancy of 100 unlikely

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Post by danielmarkbruce »

anigbrowl wrote: post #89
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> You haven’t quite come to grips with mortality This is unfair, and akin to branding anyone who takes medicine as being unhinged. There is evidence we can extend our health spans. By how much and how are open questions. And if we can actually stop aging, versus slow it down, has not been demonstrated. Some people engage with this unhealthily, just as many terminally-ill cancer patients unhealthily engage with long-s…

It's the 'indefinite' part that I react negatively to. I don't have a good impression of people who are obsessed with abolishing death, as opposed to your example of maximizing quality of life (or minimizing illness) without getting too hung up on overall age.

The person just said aging isn't a law of physics. They are right, you are the fool here.

Re: New research reveals longevity gains slowing, life expectancy of 100 unlikely

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Post by danielmarkbruce »

SoftTalker wrote: post #10
adastra22 wrote: post #4

There is no physical/chemical/biological reason you can’t live indefinitely with the health and vitality of a 25-35 year old. Aging isn’t a law of nature.

Odd then that every living thing ages and eventually dies?

but we haven't really even tried...

Re: New research reveals longevity gains slowing, life expectancy of 100 unlikely

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Post by qgin »

VincentEvans wrote: post #12
adastra22 wrote: post #4

There is no physical/chemical/biological reason you can’t live indefinitely with the health and vitality of a 25-35 year old. Aging isn’t a law of nature.

You haven’t quite come to grips with mortality, I think.

Social shaming is a big way humans deal with unchangeable things. They impose a cost for anyone expressing a desire for that thing to be different.

And it makes sense, really. You can't have a functioning society if everyone is running around freaking out about death all the time.

But we're entering a weird time where we might actually be able to add more good years to our lives. One of the steps towards getting there is being a little more okay with people seriously exploring these ideas.

Re: New research reveals longevity gains slowing, life expectancy of 100 unlikely

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Post by aaron695 »

Swizec wrote: post #2

What about quality of life adjusted life years? I don’t want to live to 100 and be miserable for the last 30 But if you can get me 90 years where I feel like a spring chicken until 89, then that’s just fine.

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