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You Have to Feel It

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Re: You Have to Feel It

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Post by pendenthistory »

johnfn wrote: post #97
cpursley wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

“Enjoy their paycheck”, there - fixed it for you

It seems like you're trying to tell me that I don't actually enjoy my work? That seems observably untrue from my perspective? If you don't enjoy your work, that's fine, but trying to tell people who do that they actually don't doesn't make any sense to me.

Whenever someone claims to enjoy or love their job, I'm extremely suspicious. Usually it's some form of cope, because without it how could you stand having to work 8+ hours a day for 40 years? Easier to tell yourself you actually love it. I'm sure you enjoy aspects of your work. But I would guess if you won $100m you wouldn't keep going. If you truly enjoyed it, you would do it for free.

Re: You Have to Feel It

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Post by laserlight »

petralithic wrote: post #100
Aurornis wrote: post #73

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> You can have a perfectly argued decision that fails some vibe check and is hence discarded One of the worst hires I ever worked with was excellent on paper, came with good credentials, had an impressive resume, and did objectively well on the interview questions. However, everyone who interviewed him felt uneasy about him. He failed the vibe check, even though he checked all of the boxes and knew all the right thin…

What made them bad, could you give more specifics? I don't quite understand what they did that was a mis-hire in your current description.

> He was someone who played games and manipulated his way through his career. He could say the right things and navigate his way through office politics unscathed while causing damage to everything he touched.

Not the one you're replying to, but is the above quote not enough to explain why they were a mis-hire?

Re: You Have to Feel It

#103

Post by akoboldfrying »

layer8 wrote: post #25
kookamamie wrote: post #5

> You have to feel it. The corporate machine does not feel it. It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop... ever, until you are dead.

The corporate machine consists of people.

People forget this. People are determined to forget this, because acknowledging it is painful. But it's so important that we do.

Re: You Have to Feel It

#104

Post by zelphirkalt »

tbrownaw wrote: post #62
cpursley wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

“Enjoy their paycheck”, there - fixed it for you

Nope. Sure scale comes with lots of communication and coordination overhead that many people don't enjoy, but middle management exists to provide a place to dump all that annoying stuff.

And to create even more of it, as they often revel in this, as it makes them seem more important, indispensable.

Re: You Have to Feel It

#105

Post by kingkawn »

card_zero wrote: post #67
kingkawn wrote: post #55

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This distinction is an absurdity first written to provide a rational for why everything being done in the name of Reason felt so bad.

Rationale. Is it, though? It would be ironic if anyone found it necessary to construct an argument for why argument is unnecessary. (Though that sounds familiar - classical cynicism maybe?) Well, acting without reason is unreasonable, for sure. But since I don't think knowledge is (mostly) hierarchical, I don't think chains of reasoning are the main part of how we arrive at preferences. To the extent that knowledge d…

Pedantry disqualified all subsequent value of your thinking

Re: You Have to Feel It

#106

Post by lelanthran »

cjk wrote: post #79
Aurornis wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> You can have a perfectly argued decision that fails some vibe check and is hence discarded One of the worst hires I ever worked with was excellent on paper, came with good credentials, had an impressive resume, and did objectively well on the interview questions. However, everyone who interviewed him felt uneasy about him. He failed the vibe check, even though he checked all of the boxes and knew all the right thin…

This exact same phenomenon bit me at a previous job. We hired a couple of really smooth-talking grifters, and it took a tremendous amount of time to get rid of them. Vibes matter.

The problem with this sort of hiring over time (we hired grifetrs because vibes) is that you never get to compare your vibe failure rate with those who had bad vibes but would have been better hires.

If you go with vibes too much you only ever accumulate data saying that vibes matter.

Re: You Have to Feel It

#107

Post by elcapitan »

fuckaj wrote: post #14

But I feel depressed every time I use Terraform. I see why it is useful, good etc. But I just enjoy it least of all the programming activities. Pulumi isn't much better. I feel IaC done that way isn't the way we will settle on long term.

Is there anybody who enjoys any form of configuration management? It feels like the most joyless of all technical activities, like filling a tax form.

Re: You Have to Feel It

#108

Post by vntok »

laserlight wrote: post #102
petralithic wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What made them bad, could you give more specifics? I don't quite understand what they did that was a mis-hire in your current description.

> He was someone who played games and manipulated his way through his career. He could say the right things and navigate his way through office politics unscathed while causing damage to everything he touched. Not the one you're replying to, but is the above quote not enough to explain why they were a mis-hire?

Not really, the parent was asking for specifics while these are generalities.

Re: You Have to Feel It

#109

Post by k__ »

As a neuro divergent person, I usually only feel relieved when I can mark a task as complete.

Doing my taxes felt the same as getting a degree and publishing a book.

Re: You Have to Feel It

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Post by bubblebeard »

Whenever my logic said one thing and my gut feeling told me different, I used to ignore my gut. This would more often than not cause some sort of backlash I could not possibly have foreseen. Sometimes immediately, sometimes several days later.

A year or so ago I got tired of this, started doing the opposite, and I will never go back.

Feelings overall are underrated.

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