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Re: Yamanot.es: A music box of train station melodies from the JR Yamanote Line

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Post by bapak »

kmorg wrote: post #52
bapak wrote: post #43

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Huh? What does that even mean? The train already announces the train station name, so why does it need a specific button for the specific jingle? Does not sound right.

Its not an automated operation, the train jingles play a few seconds before the conductor closes the door. Its played at different times depending on congestion on the train platform.

Right, but the train knows where it is. The screen shows it. Why is the jingle not connected to the same system as the train's screens? Everything is on the screen, even the doors closing animation. No excuse, really.

Re: Yamanot.es: A music box of train station melodies from the JR Yamanote Line

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Post by Dragonai »

bluecoconut wrote: post #7

The first time I got off at and heard Komagome's tune I mistakenly thought it was some halloween special because it was late October at the time, and the song felt so distinct and unique.

It's a rendition of Sakura Sakura, one of Japan's most famous (if not the most famous) folks songs :)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jqpFjsMtCb0

Re: Yamanot.es: A music box of train station melodies from the JR Yamanote Line

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Post by fair_enough »

hnthroay22312 wrote: post #63
cammikebrown wrote: post #8

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Pffft, this is fair use

not the same under Japanese's copyright law.

You should figure out who owns the copyright and report this infringement.

Someone in Japan will surely be indignant about the all the lost revenue from people who are not buying a CD full of train station jingles.

Re: Yamanot.es: A music box of train station melodies from the JR Yamanote Line

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Post by fair_enough »

kmeisthax wrote: post #53
gruez wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know "fair use" gets bandied about quite frequently on youtube uploads, but offering full verbatim downloads of any work is highly unlikely to be considered fair use if a court were to rule on it. The only reason such sites are still up is that the rights holders don't care enough to sue.

Yes, and this is also the real tragedy of automated copyright enforcement. All the funny grey area uses get marginalized.

We need adverse possession ("squatter's rights") for intellectual property.

I'm surprised copyright trolls are not buying IP from defunct game/film/music companies and suing youtubers left and right for uploading video game music and anime OSTs.

If I were a sociopath and didn't care how I make my money, I draft some legit-looking legal threat letter template demanding $10,000 to avoid a civil lawsuit worth millions, fill in the blanks with a name, IP address, and title of pirated content, then mail out the letters by the tens of thousands using USPS-subsidized cheap mail.

If you mail out about 20k of these threats, you only need 3 of them to pay up to come out on top.

Re: Yamanot.es: A music box of train station melodies from the JR Yamanote Line

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Post by sebras »

ianchen wrote: post #82
Philip-J-Fry wrote: post #76

Why can't train operators in other countries take inspiration from things like this? It takes very little effort to implement. You could hold melody competitions for local communities. It is a nice thing which sparks joy and it's also something that people would want to travel and experience. You could hold a competition with local schools every year to develop a little 5 second melody. I just think of this from a UK…

In Taipei Metro each line has its own melody https://youtu.be/lwngjC5D2WQ .

Thanks for posting that link. :)

Re: Yamanot.es: A music box of train station melodies from the JR Yamanote Line

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Post by kmeisthax »

fair_enough wrote: post #104
kmeisthax wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, and this is also the real tragedy of automated copyright enforcement. All the funny grey area uses get marginalized.

We need adverse possession ("squatter's rights") for intellectual property. I'm surprised copyright trolls are not buying IP from defunct game/film/music companies and suing youtubers left and right for uploading video game music and anime OSTs. If I were a sociopath and didn't care how I make my money, I draft some legit-looking legal threat letter template demanding $10,000 to avoid a civil lawsuit worth millions,…

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Re: Yamanot.es: A music box of train station melodies from the JR Yamanote Line

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Post by [deleted] »

wanderer_79 wrote: post #97
toyg wrote: post #90

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I think it's more to do with the fact that the official ethos is all about staunch sacrifice in the face of continuous suffering and inflexible rules. People end up trying to get some relief any way they can, looking for a bit of joy in every corner of society where they won't feel judged harshly.

As the rare Japanese on here who speaks English, the amount of theory-crafting from English-speakers about how and why Japanese do this or that is borderline hilarious. Just shows how different our cultures are. Most people don't realize that the way they view the world is through their own ethnocentric lens.

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Re: Yamanot.es: A music box of train station melodies from the JR Yamanote Line

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Post by [deleted] »

bobthepanda wrote: post #99
rtpg wrote: post #94

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All across the western world in the post war period it was common to put faces and personalities to inanimate objects in order to sell things in advertisements. The reduction of similar behavior in Japan to things like animism fails to capture the texture of why these things happen, and how they are reproduced in other places, and how ultimately societies across the world act similarly, but for timing issues. People…

There is something referred to in the US as the Protestant work ethic https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protestant_work_ethic Japan just gets a lot of attention as 1. The earliest Asian developed economy and 2. The earlier bubble-era panic over Japanese economic dominance

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