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The Size of Adobe Reader Installers Through the Years

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Re: The Size of Adobe Reader Installers Through the Years

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Post by znpy »

winkelwagen wrote: post #32

At this point i don’t trust large programs anymore. Someone recommended to use Lens to manage a k8 cluster. That application was a 600mb install file and if I’m not mistaken double that after installing on a Mac. Desktop software has become so crazy. Meanwhile the blender download is 300mb. It is not that I’m looking for over optimized software. But a 2gb k8 console doesn’t spark trust in the developers to begin with…

I miss octant so much. It was really great, it was one of those 80/20 apps.

Nowadays I, unironically, mostly use kubectl. I gave k9s a try but i can't make it stick to me, really...

Re: The Size of Adobe Reader Installers Through the Years

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Post by Night_Thastus »

fooofw wrote: post #72
StrangeDoctor wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For a technical audience, it’s probably one of the better choices, it’s probably a poor one for mass consumption. A purely linear graph would absolutely crush their pdf installer and the first 15 years of adobe into a flat line

For reference, here's a version with a linear y-axis: https://imgur.com/a/A2D1puk

This makes way more sense if the point was to show how big and bloated Adobe Reader has gotten, and by comparison just how space-efficient Sumatra is.

Way more representative.

Re: The Size of Adobe Reader Installers Through the Years

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Post by hbn »

MortyWaves wrote: post #96
hbn wrote: post #90

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I listen to a prank call show where one of his recurring bits is to call people who listed used items for sale to let them know that he's not interested in purchasing their item.

Got a link?

Not sure if I can find a particular episode right now that has that type of call but if you look up Phone Losers of America, or The Snow Plow Show (both are the same guy) you can find lots of Craigslist calls.

Here's a similar idea where he pretends to be calling from AT&T to let them know they have no incoming calls:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1sxF6vN3Ho

Re: The Size of Adobe Reader Installers Through the Years

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Post by IChrisI »

perching_aix wrote: post #30
behnamoh wrote: post #4

Adobe Reader is the first app I don't install on new machines. It's slow and sluggish, riddled with dark patterns and annoying pop ups, disrespects the user in every possible way, and hides basic editing functionality behind subscriptions. The trashiest piece of crap software. It's up there with MS Word (which gets progressively more bloated on Mac). Edit: Added "software" after crap for clarity.

> annoying pop ups Are pop-ups ever not annoying? :) Been on mind a lot lately actually, and I basically cannot come up with a situation where popups are actually an unavoidable and proper good choice. Not from a user perspective anyways (from a dev perspective, it's an easy way out and a "good" way to attention grab... and then not hold).

"Are you sure you want to close 146 tabs?"

Re: The Size of Adobe Reader Installers Through the Years

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Post by bigstrat2003 »

fooofw wrote: post #72
StrangeDoctor wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For a technical audience, it’s probably one of the better choices, it’s probably a poor one for mass consumption. A purely linear graph would absolutely crush their pdf installer and the first 15 years of adobe into a flat line

For reference, here's a version with a linear y-axis: https://imgur.com/a/A2D1puk

Thank you! That graph is so much clearer than the one in the article. You can see at a glance the relative size of the two programs, which the logarithmic scale does a terrible job showing.

Re: The Size of Adobe Reader Installers Through the Years

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Post by bigstrat2003 »

StrangeDoctor wrote: post #66
wanderingstan wrote: post #23

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Yes. Log scale seems like a poor choice, given that the point is to show the relative size disparity.

For a technical audience, it’s probably one of the better choices, it’s probably a poor one for mass consumption. A purely linear graph would absolutely crush their pdf installer and the first 15 years of adobe into a flat line

I'm a technical audience and the logarithmic scale is meaningless to me. So I don't even agree that it's a good choice for a technical audience. It may be a good choice for people who already are used to reading logarithmic scales, but that can't be a particularly large group as it's very rare to see a graph like that.

Re: The Size of Adobe Reader Installers Through the Years

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Post by bigstrat2003 »

aaviator42 wrote: post #35
kelsey98765431 wrote: post #18

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I am not super familiar with the windows ecosystem but my understanding is that scoop is a package manager similar to choco or nuget correct? is scoop seen as bloated? thanks

The lack of awareness is that the vast majority of users are not aware of and don't use scoop (or probably any package manager) on Windows, especially to install GUI apps, and that doesn't automatically make them "not sane".

Even if someone uses a package manager, they probably use choco. I'd never even heard of scoop before reading this article.

Re: The Size of Adobe Reader Installers Through the Years

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Post by JKCalhoun »

NoMoreNicksLeft wrote: post #84
JKCalhoun wrote: post #43

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How does Preview suck? The only thing that comes to mind is that it is missing some advanced PDF features that involve JavaScript (which, to some, might be seen as an asset).

About 1 in 15 of the pdfs I view in Preview have some sort of "corrupt jpeg" artifacting on the first page. (These are scans of old books, magazines, typically.) There will be a diagonal staircase of green blocks, each what I assume is the DCT 8x8 size going all the way down the page, along with what looks like a missing color channel. The same pdf if opened with Firefox will look fine (so pdfjs gets it right). This…

Love to see an example PDF. (I'd like to send it to the PDF/ImageIO team at Apple.)
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