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Right, so 24 hour coverage is already too expensive for most forums and your position is that small forums should not exist.
Small forums should and can exist. They are not required to have 24 hour coverage.
Does the Act specify "quickly"? Does several hours count as "quickly"?
Why can't these measures be handled via parental control? Children are using mobiles and tablets almost exclusively, both major providers of which supply tools for parental administration. Content filtering is already facilitated by existing parental control. Mobile browsers could be made to issue a header if the user is under a certain age. Mobile apps could have access to a flag. Parents should be responsible for p…
That's how it should work but you will find that a majority of parents cba rearing their children so they want the state to do it for them. And this extends to so many things in life that the authoritarian grip is only going to get tighter with time.
And THAT is the problem that they should be tackling.
I don't like the OSA and associated regulations as much as the next person -- I think we could have gotten a long way by saying you need to include a X-Age-Rating in http responses and calling it a day. The law itself is incoherently long and it's very difficult to know what duties you have. However, I don't see what the legal basis of Wikimedia's challenge is. The OSA is primary legislation, so can't be challenged e…
X-Age-Rating would only work if the server could be sure of the jurisdictions under which the recipient was bound. To continue the thought experiment though: another implementation would be to list up to N tags that best describe the content being served. You could base these on various agreed tagging systems such as UN ISIC tagging ( 6010 Broadcasting Pop Music ) or UDC, the successor to the Dewey Decimal System ( 6…
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The problem with the focus being on porn behind age verification as the main effect, is that it ignores all the other effects. Closing community forums and wikis. Uncertainty about blog comments. It is actually (as noted in many previous discussion about the Online Safety Act) pushing people to using big tech platforms, because they can no longer afford the compliance cost and risk of running their own.
If you have examples of this happening, please add them to the ORG list: https://www.blocked.org.uk/osa-blocks
I don't like the OSA and associated regulations as much as the next person -- I think we could have gotten a long way by saying you need to include a X-Age-Rating in http responses and calling it a day. The law itself is incoherently long and it's very difficult to know what duties you have. However, I don't see what the legal basis of Wikimedia's challenge is. The OSA is primary legislation, so can't be challenged e…
X-Age-Rating would only work if the server could be sure of the jurisdictions under which the recipient was bound. To continue the thought experiment though: another implementation would be to list up to N tags that best describe the content being served. You could base these on various agreed tagging systems such as UN ISIC tagging ( 6010 Broadcasting Pop Music ) or UDC, the successor to the Dewey Decimal System ( 6…
That's no different to the current legislation.
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large companies love this law. By imposing costs and risk on self hosting, and reducing the number of supplies (because many small and medium companies and organisation will block the UK), it reduces competition.
The reality is the vast majority of users will just not submit their ID and the large companies will lose most of their UK traffic. There was a study by Amazon [1] that showed that every 100ms of extra load time of a page cost 1% of revenue. How much revenue do you think adding an ID verification that takes 10 minutes to complete cost??? You think PornHub loves this law??? [1] https://www.conductor.com/academy/page-s…
There must be smaller sites in the same business that will block UK users rather than comply.
So, they very likely do.
What is more important is that the tech giants, and social media in particular does love this law. As I pointed out in another comment, and has been reported many times on HN before, they have already gained users as people switch from independent forums to social media, and in the future it will keep competition out.
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That's how it should work but you will find that a majority of parents cba rearing their children so they want the state to do it for them. And this extends to so many things in life that the authoritarian grip is only going to get tighter with time.
> parents cba rearing their children And THAT is the problem that they should be tackling.
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I'm not following the logic, how would this work?
Take Reddit as an example: Reddit became big after Digg fucked up their mainpage and has replaced most hobby forums and discussions on the internet. A competitor to it would have to implement a lot of compliance stuff like age verification and that would be very expensive, making it harder for a competitor to be bootstrapped. That's why Reddit has an incentive to support such regulation, even if it costs them a lot.…
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That's how it should work but you will find that a majority of parents cba rearing their children so they want the state to do it for them. And this extends to so many things in life that the authoritarian grip is only going to get tighter with time.
> parents cba rearing their children And THAT is the problem that they should be tackling.