I've seen formerly free content platforms now require a payment of 2 GBP to prove your age. Ridiculous.
Pocket change. :D
And yeah, absurd.
Users claim Discord's age verification can be tricked with video game characters
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Re: Users claim Discord's age verification can be tricked with video game characters
#102Earlier quoted context omitted.
When you place all the requirements on a software product like what the government has to, then it’s going to be expensive. Anyone who thinks that the total cost of a privacy protecting, government accredited, widely available, reliable, audited, and domestically produced age verification system isn’t going to be in the hundreds of millions has never actually shipped something comparable. It is literally illegal to s…
A small group of closely working skilled engineers would produce something more reliable and far less likely to have a privacy breach than the typical government contracting system. The idea that a small group of people can't produce something that can scale to millions of people is just false. It also wouldn't just be cheaper; it would be better. The "government" way of doing things would be far more likely to be br…
> The idea that a small group of people can't produce something that can scale to millions of people is just false.
No. Regards, Palantir, Microsoft, HP (and other government providers)
Re: Users claim Discord's age verification can be tricked with video game characters
#103Earlier quoted context omitted.
When you place all the requirements on a software product like what the government has to, then it’s going to be expensive. Anyone who thinks that the total cost of a privacy protecting, government accredited, widely available, reliable, audited, and domestically produced age verification system isn’t going to be in the hundreds of millions has never actually shipped something comparable. It is literally illegal to s…
What are you talking about? The government gets to cheat and use the IRL ID verification they do already for licenses. * You create your account as part of your license renewal and have a normal-ass login. As part of that your account is manually marked as being 18+ (or just your age) by the person behind the counter. * The government publishes a few public certs which will be used to verify. * Then you go to your ac…
When you say "license renewal", you're referring to a driver's license? Not everyone has one of those.
Re: Users claim Discord's age verification can be tricked with video game characters
#104I think the way discords setup works is reasonable. It’s an on-device model that only submits the outcome of the scan to the platform. I hope they just improve that performance, rather than see this and back out of it entirely and require ID checks.
>It’s an on-device model that only submits the outcome of the scan to the platform. And that's why it's been bypassed already https://x.com/Pirat_Nation/status/1949036664132657225
No way discord has enabled devtools haha
On the other note, can one attach chrome devtools to any electron application?
Re: Users claim Discord's age verification can be tricked with video game characters
#105I think the way discords setup works is reasonable. It’s an on-device model that only submits the outcome of the scan to the platform. I hope they just improve that performance, rather than see this and back out of it entirely and require ID checks.
On-device models are excellent for privacy, but they are fundamentally broken from a security perspective. Preventing people from spoofing the results would involve locking them out of their own devices, via DRM.
That's the point!
We want a broken and easily bypassable system that only exists to make do-gooders think they did good.
Re: Users claim Discord's age verification can be tricked with video game characters
#106Earlier quoted context omitted.
The California legislature is already working on forcing operating systems to attest the age of the user at the account level. See the recent gut-and-amend of AB1043 [0], which was a privacy bill [1] just a few months ago: > This bill would require, among other things related to age verification on the internet, a covered manufacturer to provide an accessible interface at account setup that requires an account holder…
I’ve often talked about in private settings about how running open source OSes and DRM-free setups would likely become illegal in the future. With every passing day this vision seems closer to reality.
The slowly boiled death of general-purpose computing
Re: Users claim Discord's age verification can be tricked with video game characters
#107Earlier quoted context omitted.
Maybe I'm old. Well, no, I am relatively old. Either way, when I see a person or business advertise a Discord link, I immediately think of either as immature. I miss the days of forums, and wish something like them could thrive again instead of rather private, but importantly ephemeral chats.
I've been hired and have hired people through the Discord community. It's no different than Hacker News in this respect, where I've done the same. Professionalism is orthogonal, though I will agree that ephemeral chats have serious drawbacks for project-oriented communities.
You can read HN without an account, and making an account doesn't require providing a phone number. (Discord in some cases locks you out of an account entirely if it thinks that you are "suspicious" until you provide a one-time sms code from a phone # that satisfies them)
Re: Users claim Discord's age verification can be tricked with video game characters
#108Earlier quoted context omitted.
When you place all the requirements on a software product like what the government has to, then it’s going to be expensive. Anyone who thinks that the total cost of a privacy protecting, government accredited, widely available, reliable, audited, and domestically produced age verification system isn’t going to be in the hundreds of millions has never actually shipped something comparable. It is literally illegal to s…
What are you talking about? The government gets to cheat and use the IRL ID verification they do already for licenses. * You create your account as part of your license renewal and have a normal-ass login. As part of that your account is manually marked as being 18+ (or just your age) by the person behind the counter. * The government publishes a few public certs which will be used to verify. * Then you go to your ac…
> The problem gets a lot easier when you have a country wide IRL ID system already in place and can write laws.
every time a country wide ID comes up, people freak the fuck out about state's rights and it being a power grab. people are already freaking out about RealID. it will take a very authoritarian system to force this through, yet it's the supporters of that leader that are the most vocally against it.
Re: Users claim Discord's age verification can be tricked with video game characters
#109Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes? I expect that "take a weekend to France to bypass age verification" and "subscribe to NordVPN to bypass age verification" are both legal while "take a weekend to France to see the Eiffel tower" and "use NordVPN to increase your security" are both legal. Did you never wonder why VPN ads don't really list any actual use cases, yet they're wildly popular? If you know what you need it for, the ad doesn't have to tel…
VPN ads do list actual use cases. The most popular one I've heard is geolocation-based pricing on airline tickets. (I still don't really know what people are actually using VPNs for.)
For instance, VPNs are popular in Russia, people use them to access YouTube, Instagram and other platforms banned by the regime.
Re: Users claim Discord's age verification can be tricked with video game characters
#110The one good thing about the stupid age verification is it stimulates thinking outside the box in kids :)
Not really - only one kid has to think outside the box. They others just copy.