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You can get push notifications to your phone from a website through the browser, even when that website isn't still open. But presumably developers have more control over app notification look & feel vs browser notifications?
Browser push isn’t enabled by default which ime is a huge difference.
The Discord web app is nearly identical to the desktop app. The main things you are missing are global push-to-talk and rich presence (i.e. dicord spies on your process list and tells other people what games you are playing). I'm always surprised more people don't use it.
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True, but it does force citizens into a contract with either Apple or Google. I don’t think that is a good idea both from the perspective of individual freedom and national sovereignty.
Nothing beats a hardware token. I would also use Yubikey for banking, but I am scared as f. what happens if I lose it while traveling abroad.
Don’t forget the ability to send push notifications. I think that’s one of the main reasons — it turns your whole relationship with a product on its head: you lose control over when you’re engaging, instead they can literally push their services and ads on you.
You can get push notifications to your phone from a website through the browser, even when that website isn't still open. But presumably developers have more control over app notification look & feel vs browser notifications?
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Why is that a bad thing? Wouldn't we be better off with all of them being PWA's?
Gotta love the HN bubble. Users want apps, not PWAs.
> If you've ever opened Reddit, LinkedIn, Pinterest And Facebook. I swear they intentionally make the website as bad as possible for mobile browsers. Explicitly disabled sending messages a few years ago. Do they really think someone who resisted their push to apps for 10+ years would submit one day?
just for those who don't know: https://old.reddit.com/
Fortunately, Redlib exists: https://github.com/redlib-org/redlib
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Given how much it seems Apple detests PWAs, I don't ever see this happening. One can dream.
I feel like Apple is some lazy target for people to point to why PWAs have little uptake. Android has long had PWA support. Almost no one uses it at all. In fact iOS users have long had significantly high web browser usage than their Android compatriots. "It's because iOS doesn't support it...somehow. Despite entirely separate bases that could be served in entirely different ways, it's actually Apple's fault" A coupl…
But even aside from Apple's lack of support, the PWA standard seems kinda bad. Weird boilerplate like the serviceworker.js even if all you want is to make it addable to home screen.
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The reason I believe the web experience is inferior is because companies put more resources into apps at the expense of the web. Apps break often. They need a lot of support. Everything must be constantly updated. You never know when Samsung or Apple will push an update that breaks things because of some esoteric policy shift or setting change. But the web? If you do it right, maintenence is much easier. If things do…
>I can't be the only one who _never _ updates software on my phone until I absolutely have to. right there with you brother
Don’t agree, but to each their own. The native app experience for every app noted in the article is better and smoother than the mobile web version, in my opinion. Lots of people hate Electron apps, which suggests to me that my preference for native apps isn’t unique. Web apps can ask for your location or microphone the same way native apps can. Just reject it, there’s nothing that says you have to accept on either p…