Reminds me of recent outages in Russia due to buggy rollouts of Great Russian Firewall aka Sovereign Internet. Were there any state-level infrastructure updates planned recently?
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UK: Phone networks down: EE, BT, Three, Vodafone, O2 not working in mass outage
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Re: UK: Phone networks down: EE, BT, Three, Vodafone, O2 not working in mass outage
#102Earlier quoted context omitted.
Serious question: who gets to decide that some international forum is more important than residents’ use? - be it games, video calls, or whatever else.
The government has an authority to decide, according to the laws? By the way they also often block roads for security of important foreign guests and cause lot of traffic jams.
they also restrict major roads like the M4 for the benefit of the Olympic committee
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I don't think it would permanently spoil anything. China would just stop the phone network from being used to coordinate a response.
No mobile network can be an inconvenience but who has to respond will have the means to communicate no matter what. Furthermore every single common person will feel a personal level of danger and they won't simply shrug about the destiny of a remote island somewhere on the map.
The people we are talking about live in Taiwan, so Taiwan is not a remote island for them.
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#104BT, EE: Yes. Three, Vodafone: No. O2: Unknown. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cnvmvqrnq7go > A spokesperson from BT, which owns EE, apologised and said the firm was "currently addressing an issue impacting our services". > Vodafone and Three have confirmed to the BBC they do not have network issues.
Never have signal with EE at home barely 1 bar. It's ridiculous and I don't live in a flat or something.
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#105Earlier quoted context omitted.
So it's like three is in Ireland :)
At least you can drown your network sorrows in (relatively) affordable pints of Guinness and the healthy craft beer scene. Separate note, but I am astonished by how expensive London is - I can pay engineers Bangalore level salaries but they have to deal with Chicago level CoL.
Ireland's the same now :( Cost of living is insane, especially rent. It's still aftershocks from the financial crash in 2007, the whole economy was leaning on the housing development industry and that has never recovered. So there's a huge backlog in new developments.
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#106Earlier quoted context omitted.
If that were possible, then why didn't Russia, which might have the most experienced pool of cyber-attack skills in the world, do it to Ukraine?
it would get them nothing. they did attack satcom systems to the point of bricking them. what do you think would happen if you turn off critical infra for a country? mass civilian death/suffering. military likely hardly affected but extremely motivated... its counter productive.
That doesn't seem to be stopping Russia from engaging in the energy war, where they're "wasting" incredibly valuable and rare precision missiles attacking substations and power generation.
So far, this has been only moderately successful in impacting the military, because most of Ukraine's military production is not actually located in Ukraine, and because they've gotten quite good at repairing their electrical grid.
This was generally true of allied strategic bombing campaigns in WWII as well. Simple adaptations like building walls between sections of the plant to require more bombs to attack any given target, hardened shelters for skilled employees, and staging parts outside of the plant enabled some targets to maintain better than 50% uptime during aggressive bombing campaigns. Look into the Oil campaign[1] for more details.
It is interesting to see how precision missiles and cheap drones may change this in the future.
1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_campaign_of_World_War_II
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#107Earlier quoted context omitted.
I do think there's a better than average chance that WW3 starts not with an open nuclear exchange as our parents imagined, but instead with a substantial cyberattack which shuts down power, water treatment, communications, hospitals, public transportation, etc. This might even be deniable / grey zone for a few hours or days while the belligerent parties use the chaos to accomplish some Blitzkrieg style attacks.
If that were possible, then why didn't Russia, which might have the most experienced pool of cyber-attack skills in the world, do it to Ukraine?
They did, to some extent, though not to the degree I described.
As an American, I would be more worried about China than Russia though. They makes a lot of our hardware and firmware, giving them plenty of chances to embed killswitches and zero-days. They have possibly the most successful industrial espionage program in the world, giving them the opportunity to find vulns in other systems and embed agents inside critical platforms. They have deeply internalized the concept of fighting where their enemy is weakest not where they are strongest, so they have likely invested in attacking the American military at home rather than on the field.
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#108It’s weird to me that the providers aren’t communicating to customers about this. What if you were waiting for a call from a doctor, or similar?
But the network is not working!
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