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Re: Work Life balance slows careers

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Post by black6 »

solatic wrote: post #77
AnotherGoodName wrote: post #39

The real issues come when you work hard and just get exploited. That's what's really missing here. Someone who got lucky in life and had their hard work rewarded is telling others that hard work pays. In fact for this author in his field it pays off 100x+ whatever it pays for others. For a salary of a few million a year i too would be willing to work some 12+hour days... for a while. I'd even post a few articles on h…

Yeah there's a very serious bias when an E9 is telling people to work 18 hour days like he did when he was getting promoted every year at Microsoft. Of course an E9 has a latent interest in seeing more lower-level Facebook ICs put in longer hours. If every Facebook IC put in 12+ hour days, that would be a terrific success from his leadership. ... but what are the chances of every Facebook IC getting promoted to E9? I…

How many Sergeants Major are there at the FAANGs?

More seriously, I've never heard the E9 designation outside of the military. What does it mean?

Re: Work Life balance slows careers

#102

Post by dragonwriter »

black6 wrote: post #101
solatic wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah there's a very serious bias when an E9 is telling people to work 18 hour days like he did when he was getting promoted every year at Microsoft. Of course an E9 has a latent interest in seeing more lower-level Facebook ICs put in longer hours. If every Facebook IC put in 12+ hour days, that would be a terrific success from his leadership. ... but what are the chances of every Facebook IC getting promoted to E9? I…

How many Sergeants Major are there at the FAANGs? More seriously, I've never heard the E9 designation outside of the military. What does it mean?

E9 “Distinguished Engineer” is apparently the highest level individual contributor engineering level at Meta.

Re: Work Life balance slows careers

#103

Post by paulcole »

david-gpu wrote: post #85
paulcole wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Just look at your spouse and children and ask whether they would rather have more money, or a more present husband & father. But you yourself are saying that if you disagree with your spouse's assessment of the situation (in the hypothetical) you'd consider divorcing her. You really just want someone to validate the decision you've made rather than challenge it.

Let's take a step back and understand the context of this discussion. This isn't a forum where unemployed people talk about poverty finance. This is a place primarily made by and for tech bros. Said tech bros are far more likely to fall into the category of "workaholic overachiever" than "unmotivated NINJA" [0]. My comments in this thread are written in that context. As for the rest, I will take your kind insights to…

I mean you're the one who said, "Ask the kid. Or the spouse."

But you're just saying "Ask the kid. Or the spouse... As long as they say what I want to hear."

You may feel that the thing you want to hear is objectively "right" but it isn't.

> If you want to work longer hours because your spouse asks you to make more money, that's your own choice to make.

I don't know why you think that would be my choice? My point is that I don't ask people for input if my mind is already made up.

Re: Work Life balance slows careers

#104

Post by xigency »

paulcole wrote: post #22
david-gpu wrote: post #12

> I was Facebook’s first engineer promoted to E9 outside the US. All this, at the cost of my second-grade son making sure he had a reserved spot on my calendar prior to me heading off to work that morning. Was it worth it? > If you want atypically fast career growth, you need to put in the hours. Only you can answer whether the sacrifices are worth it. Ask the kid. Or the spouse. My father had a significant career: m…

If, hypothetically, your kids and wife asked you to work many more hours and earn much more money, would you do it?

Troll / flamebait

Re: Work Life balance slows careers

#105

Post by disgruntledphd2 »

dragonwriter wrote: post #102
black6 wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How many Sergeants Major are there at the FAANGs? More seriously, I've never heard the E9 designation outside of the military. What does it mean?

E9 “Distinguished Engineer” is apparently the highest level individual contributor engineering level at Meta.

And let's be clear, the reason Philip made that level is because he switched to the management track for a bunch of levels, then switched back to IC.

Re: Work Life balance slows careers

#106

Post by jajko »

SirMaster wrote: post #49
jajko wrote: post #34

If you live to work, all the power to you. Just don't get kids, the world has enough broken folks who are struggling their whole lives to overcome their childhood and their father figure (or the lack of it). They carry the traumas right into their own relationships, often repeating same mistakes. Listen to people a bit since its easy to notice if you know what to look for, its proper pandemic under the hood in all di…

But if you don't have kids, then you don't really need that much money is what I find at least...

If you don't have kids, whats the reason to take some 100% corporate job? Life is darn too short and world is so beautiful and amazing to explore. I've seen few setups that work long term like that and none involved office time. No need to hoard wealth rather live in the moment(s). That really starts to make sense if you need to settle down ie for kids.

Re: Work Life balance slows careers

#108

Post by jleyank »

mingus88 wrote: post #59

My dad was a workaholic. Also as is typical with boomers they raised us as latchkey kids I made it a requirement for my career that I wouldn’t treat my kids the same way. I set boundaries with work and am very upset when work intrudes Could I have made more money and had more status? Certainly, but my kids like spending time with me and they’re the whole reason I’m chasing a salary in the first place

Although the generation of latchkey kids might have turned out better socialized or better organized than those that followed. Society was different back then, but the people entering adulthood seemed to have it going.

Re: Work Life balance slows careers

#109

Post by lotsofpulp »

bgnn wrote: post #87
cm2012 wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Once you add in payroll tax, sales tax (10% of most purchases) and property tax (you pay indirectly even if you rent) and you get right around 50% in NYC. I have lived this and calced this many times lol.

Interesting to include the sales tax. Makes sense I guess. Where I live in Europe it's like 45% income tax + 21% sales tax (more like 75% on fuel) + 5% wealth tax.

It is not 10% on most purchases. All the largest purchases one makes are almost always not subject to sales tax. Land, money (debt), equities, healthcare, education, insurance, medicine, and groceries (unprepared foods) in almost all states.

And 10% is a high sales tax rate, most jurisdictions are ~7%.

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