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UK backing down on Apple encryption backdoor after pressure from US

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Re: UK backing down on Apple encryption backdoor after pressure from US

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You're 'not at liberty' to post wikipedia links? Or you have knowledge of programs wikipedia doesn't?

The latter. Wikipedia doesn’t know everything. NDA’s are enforceable.

Re: UK backing down on Apple encryption backdoor after pressure from US

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> Apple did not respond to a request for comment. “We have never built a back door or master key to any of our products, and we never will,” Apple said in February.

This must be some "technically correct" weasel words bullcrap, as without at least equivalent access there is no chance Apple would be operating in China.

Re: UK backing down on Apple encryption backdoor after pressure from US

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It's called Pegasus. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pegasus_(spyware)

That's old patched spyware. I'm talking about something entirely different. No device install needed.

Re: UK backing down on Apple encryption backdoor after pressure from US

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I really sort of expected that by the time I reached my age that we'd have more policy makers that understood tech a little better. I feel like in the last say 25 or more years ... the needle hasn't moved.

You'd have to convince politicians they shouldn't be trying to die of old age in office before we started getting people who know tech

> before we started getting people who know tech reply

The politicians might not know tech, but the NSA, GHCQ, etc. that push for these anti-encryption laws most definitely do know technology, and is the main lobby against encryption.

It goes beyond just getting politicians that understand tech. We need politicians willing to rein in the intelligence apparatus put in safeguards, and checks and balances on their power.

Re: UK backing down on Apple encryption backdoor after pressure from US

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post #102

> Apple did not respond to a request for comment. “We have never built a back door or master key to any of our products, and we never will,” Apple said in February. This must be some "technically correct" weasel words bullcrap, as without at least equivalent access there is no chance Apple would be operating in China.

They may not have built it, but it doesn’t mean they didn’t implement something built for them.

Re: UK backing down on Apple encryption backdoor after pressure from US

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I really sort of expected that by the time I reached my age that we'd have more policy makers that understood tech a little better. I feel like in the last say 25 or more years ... the needle hasn't moved.

This article is explicitly about how J.D. Vance (age 40) & others at the White House are forcefully advocating for preserving E2E encryption. Arguably not for the right reasons, but still. I'm not sure what you mean by "more" but what you are asking for is in fact happening.

because Vance and his colleagues are breaking federal law for the retention of government records and as long as they don’t invite anymore journalists into the group chat they will get away with it

Re: UK backing down on Apple encryption backdoor after pressure from US

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post #102

> Apple did not respond to a request for comment. “We have never built a back door or master key to any of our products, and we never will,” Apple said in February. This must be some "technically correct" weasel words bullcrap, as without at least equivalent access there is no chance Apple would be operating in China.

> This must be some "technically correct" weasel words bullcrap

Is that even necessary? A gag order means they can't reveal backdoors, and their entire stack is so locked down that discovering them is hard and unlikely.

Re: UK backing down on Apple encryption backdoor after pressure from US

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They have to know that there's no monopoly on those workarounds. Unless they're even more hubristic than we imagined.

Even if other nations have access to the plaintext, that beats all nations having that access.

I don't think they much care about all nations.

They care about maybe a maximum of five having that access, and I'm sure they realize that #1 on that list (PRC) won't need much time to become a peer on any given technology.

Re: UK backing down on Apple encryption backdoor after pressure from US

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You're 'not at liberty' to post wikipedia links? Or you have knowledge of programs wikipedia doesn't?

The latter. Wikipedia doesn’t know everything. NDA’s are enforceable.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. If you really have access to secret information of that significance and you really are under an NDA that prohibits you from talking about it then why are you casually posting innuendo about it on HN?
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