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The AI tooling churn is so fast that by the time a study comes out people will be able to say "well they were using an older tool" no matter what tool that the study used .
Not really. Chatting with a llm was cutting edge for 3 years it’s only within the last 8-10 months with Claude code and Gemini cli do we have the next big change in how we interact with llms
Coding with LLMs in the summer of 2025 – an update
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Re: Coding with LLMs in the summer of 2025 – an update
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I find it even more sad when people come out of the woodwork on every LLM post to tell us that our positive experiences using LLMs are imagined and we just haven’t realized how bad they are yet.
If LLMs were actually useful, there would be no need to scream it everywhere. On the contrary: it would be a guarded secret.
Re: Coding with LLMs in the summer of 2025 – an update
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GitHub Copilot is pretty easy to try within VS Code
I want to use Gemini 2.5 PRO. I was an early tester of Copilot and it was awful.
Re: Coding with LLMs in the summer of 2025 – an update
#104I think all conversations about coding with LLMs, vibe coding, etc. need to note the domain and choice of programming language. IMHO those two variables are 10x (maybe 100x) more explanatory than any vibe coding setup one can concoct. Anyone who is befuddled by how the other person {loves, hates} using LLMs to code should ask what kind of problem they are working on and then try to tackle the same problem with AI to…
Re: Coding with LLMs in the summer of 2025 – an update
#105Sorry if I missed it in the article — what’s your setup? Do you use a CLI tool like aider or are you using an IDE like cursor?
Re: Coding with LLMs in the summer of 2025 – an update
#106Sorry if I missed it in the article — what’s your setup? Do you use a CLI tool like aider or are you using an IDE like cursor?
Re: Coding with LLMs in the summer of 2025 – an update
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> Programming used to be (and still is, to a large extent) an activity that can be done with open and free tools. Since when? It starts with computers, the main tool and it's architecture not being free and goes from there. Major compilers used to not be free. Major IDEs used to not be free. For most things there were decent and (sometimes) superior free alternatives. The same is true for LLMs. > The excuse "but you…
> Major compilers used to not be free. Major IDEs used to not be free. There were and are a lot of non-free ones, but since the 1990s, GCC and interpreted languages and Linux and Emacs and Eclipse and a bunch of kinda-IDEs were all free, and now VS Code is one of the highest marketshare IDEs, and those are all free. Also, the most used and learned programming language is JS, which doesn't need compilers in the first…
Re: Coding with LLMs in the summer of 2025 – an update
#108Sorry if I missed it in the article — what’s your setup? Do you use a CLI tool like aider or are you using an IDE like cursor?
He uses vim and copy paste code from web interfaces because he wants to maintain control and understanding of the code. You can find proofs of this setup on his youtube channel [ https://www.youtube.com/@antirez ]
Re: Coding with LLMs in the summer of 2025 – an update
#109> Gemini 2.5 PRO | Claude Opus 4 Whether it's vibe coding, agentic coding, or copy pasting from the web interface to your editor, it's still sad to see the normalization of private (i.e., paid) LLM models. I like the progress that LLMs introduce and I see them as a powerful tool, but I cannot understand how programmers (whether complete nobodies or popular figures) dont mind adding a strong dependency on a third part…
It’s weird that programmers will champion paying for Llm but not ad-free web search.
Re: Coding with LLMs in the summer of 2025 – an update
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> Programming used to be (and still is, to a large extent) an activity that can be done with open and free tools. Yet JetBrains has been a business longer than some of my colleagues have been alive, and Microsoft’s Visual Basic/C++/Studio made writing software for Windows much easier, and did not come cheap.
I see a big difference: I do use Jetbrains IDEs (they are nice), but I can switch to vim (or vscode) any time if I need to (e.g., let's say Jetbrains increase their price to a point that doesn't make sense, or perhaps they introduce a pervasive feature that cannot be disabled). The problem with paid LLMs is that one cannot easily switch to open-source ones (because they are not as good as the paid ones). So, it's a d…
Can you make vim work roughly the same way? Probably you can get pretty close. But how many hours do I have to sink into the config? A lot. And suddenly the PyCharm license is cheap.
And it's exactly the same thing with LLMs. You want hand crafted beautiful code, untainted by AI? You can still do that. But I'm paid to solve problems. I can solve them faster/solve more of them? I get more money.