Gaslight-driven development • Hacker News Board

Re: Gaslight-driven development

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Post by addandsubtract » Thu, Jul 17, 2025, 10:19 AM UTC

consumer451 wrote: post #16

hamish-b wrote: post #3

I like seeing what users are currently viewing the same page, but man the constant jostling of users coming and going made it hard to read the post.

Same here. Right-click the page and choose Inspect (or Inspect Element). Click the Console tab, paste this code, and press Enter: document.getElementById("presence")?.remove(); If you want to know why this is happening in your brain, it's likely a prey/predator identification thing. I would like to think that being so distracted by this just means I have excellent survival instincts :) https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.107…

uBlock Origin also lets you "zap" elements away. No console fiddling required.

Re: Gaslight-driven development

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Post by user_of_the_wek » Thu, Jul 17, 2025, 10:37 AM UTC

Tcepsa wrote: post #69

Maybe it's spite-driven development, but I'd love to hear about someone who, upon learning that LLMs are suggesting endpoints in their API that don't exist, implements them specifically to respond with a status code[0] of "421: Misdirected Request". Or, for something less snarky and more in keeping with the actual intent of the code, "501: Not Implemented". If the potentially-implied "but it might be, later" of 501 i…

Reminds me of signs like this: https://www.reddit.com/r/ScarySigns/comments/dhzov1/your_gps...

Re: Gaslight-driven development

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Post by user_of_the_wek » Thu, Jul 17, 2025, 10:38 AM UTC

loloquwowndueo wrote: post #23

delifue wrote: post #20

> for example, we used tx.update for both inserting and updating entities, but LLMs kept writing tx.create instead. Guess what: we now have tx.create, too. If a function can both insert and update, it should be called "put". Using "update" is misleading.

Upsert?

Crupdate

Re: Gaslight-driven development

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Post by LiKao » Thu, Jul 17, 2025, 2:23 PM UTC

Bluestein wrote: post #72

Tcepsa wrote: post #69

Maybe it's spite-driven development, but I'd love to hear about someone who, upon learning that LLMs are suggesting endpoints in their API that don't exist, implements them specifically to respond with a status code[0] of "421: Misdirected Request". Or, for something less snarky and more in keeping with the actual intent of the code, "501: Not Implemented". If the potentially-implied "but it might be, later" of 501 i…

> "513: Your Coding Assistant Is Wrong" You made me chuckle. Well played. Great stuff :) May I, simply, also suggest: HTTP 407 Hallucination Meaning: The server understands the request but believes it to be incongruous with reality.-

Yes, it should definitely be in the 400 space of HTML error codes. As 400 -> "You are incorrect" while 500 -> "We messed up".

Re: Gaslight-driven development

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Post by tdstein » Thu, Jul 17, 2025, 4:09 PM UTC

OJFord wrote: post #82

tdstein wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Only from lack of a better word (:

Premise?

There it is

Re: Gaslight-driven development

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Post by spacemadness » Thu, Jul 17, 2025, 4:46 PM UTC

hamish-b wrote: post #3

I like seeing what users are currently viewing the same page, but man the constant jostling of users coming and going made it hard to read the post.

Certainly not built to help those with ADHD in mind.

Re: Gaslight-driven development

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Post by alexjerome » Thu, Jul 17, 2025, 5:13 PM UTC

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Re: Gaslight-driven development

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Post by bluefirebrand » Thu, Jul 17, 2025, 7:27 PM UTC

snickerdoodle12 wrote: post #99

bluefirebrand wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, if you need to depart your lane in a hurry you cannot be expected to use the blinker first and the car should not fight you to do so

You are literally too lazy to move a single finger. You are a bad driver. Being "in a hurry" makes no sense either, turning on your blinkers should be ingrained in your muscle memory and take no additional effort.

Not lazy

If you need to depart a lane in a hurry to avoid hitting a person or something, you aren't going to get any benefit from signalling

The people behind you won't even have time to process your signal before you veer, anyways

Re: Gaslight-driven development

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Post by snickerdoodle12 » Thu, Jul 17, 2025, 7:45 PM UTC

bluefirebrand wrote: post #108

snickerdoodle12 wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are literally too lazy to move a single finger. You are a bad driver. Being "in a hurry" makes no sense either, turning on your blinkers should be ingrained in your muscle memory and take no additional effort.

Not lazy If you need to depart a lane in a hurry to avoid hitting a person or something, you aren't going to get any benefit from signalling The people behind you won't even have time to process your signal before you veer, anyways

It should be muscle memory to extend that finger to flick the turn signal. If it's not you are a lazy and/or bad driver.

Re: Gaslight-driven development

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Post by theendisney » Thu, Jul 17, 2025, 9:30 PM UTC

bigiain wrote: post #49

theendisney wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lets just do all variations and have the llm guess it right the first time.

Implement all of them, with slightly different edge cases that result in glaringly obvious RCE when two or three of them are misused in place of each other. (New startup pitch: Our agentic AI scans your access and error logs, and automatically vibe codes new API endpoints for failed API calls and pushes them to production within seconds, all without expensive developers or human intervention! Please form an orderly q…

I wrote some joke code long ago for a library that does everything. You wrap all function calls in a try that submits the entire script as a bug report. The animatedBackgroundWithUnicorns() is then implemented.. eh i mean the bug is fixed.

It might actually work if the subscription is expensive enough.