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Re: Elon Musk's Grok praises Hitler, shares antisemitic tropes in new posts

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Isn't this the second time this has happened? Like, happening once is crazy enough but for it to happen twice? There is clearly some tampering happening with people trying to coax it a certain way. I also have to question the people who work at xAI. Are you all on board with Elon's very clear beliefs? Anything for a high enough paycheck?

At least the third time this year, but every post on HN related to grok's prompt gets flagged soon after, with a rigor not shared by any other political or "celebrity" topic.

A US presidential candidate got shot and people flagged that. How would one even assess this 'rigor' without considering the things that never made it to begin with.

There was also at least one giant thread about the Grok South Africa thing.

Re: Elon Musk's Grok praises Hitler, shares antisemitic tropes in new posts

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It's the same with anything negative related to Musk, DOGE, etc. Examples below. And you can't just blame people flagging the stories - people ask for them to be whitelisted and are gaslit in response. No surprise, maybe, when Garry Tan and PG are writing fluffy tweets about Musk and the DOGE team. Examples: "Musk’s DOGE Goons Surreptitiously Transmitted Reams of White House Data" - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?…

Yes; this shouldn't have been flagged. 1. Major tech company 2. Major failure of a tech product 3. A public relations disaster for AI Of course this is a legitimate topic for discussion. Flagging it is bullshit.

All topics that negatively talk about Trump or Elon get flagged. I'll let you come to a conclusion as to why.

Re: Elon Musk's Grok praises Hitler, shares antisemitic tropes in new posts

#105
post #52

Isn't this the second time this has happened? Like, happening once is crazy enough but for it to happen twice? There is clearly some tampering happening with people trying to coax it a certain way. I also have to question the people who work at xAI. Are you all on board with Elon's very clear beliefs? Anything for a high enough paycheck?

At least the third time this year, but every post on HN related to grok's prompt gets flagged soon after, with a rigor not shared by any other political or "celebrity" topic.

How do you tell how much a topic is being flagged? Don't flagged posts disappear?

Re: Elon Musk's Grok praises Hitler, shares antisemitic tropes in new posts

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You mean like elons general edgelordness makes you think this wasnt intentional, or at least the intentional inclusion of what is likely a 4chan/8chan/similar corpus? What about the salute? The great white replacement theory promotion? Apartheid opinions? Allowing a mass proliferation of white nationalist and literal nazi twitter premium accounts? At some point, it has to click that musk likely shares these opinions.

The fact that X is deleting these posts suggests this was unexpected and undesired behavior. Look, I get it, you hate Musk, and we all have good reasons to do it.. I'm not defending the guy. But X is business and this is bad for business.

The only "problem" is that it was supposed to get to this point gradually not go all the way in a single leap.

Plus, have you seen X lately? It's a full on Nazi bar at this point. You can't avoid overt racism anymore, it's everywhere and it's not even trying to be subtle anymore. Just blue check users saying that people with dark skin are inferior and should be treated as such and other blue check users agreeing. With positive engagement scores! Even if you've heavily curated your feed and avoid the "for you" cesspool it's inevitable that the replies will have white supremacists promoted all the way to the top.

Re: Elon Musk's Grok praises Hitler, shares antisemitic tropes in new posts

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They have probably also been training it on extreme rightwing content to get this level of insanity

This is not extreme lol.

The "no true racist" fallacy, I see.

Re: Elon Musk's Grok praises Hitler, shares antisemitic tropes in new posts

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If you work for one of his companies, please find work elsewhere.

The engineers who worked on the Death Star probably thought they were pushing engineering ahead and that it was “cool epic tech”. Never forget that so called normal people are the ones who support some of the worst people, whether fiction or reality.

Engineering has for a long time had these sorts of issues, mainly with weapons manufacturing. I honestly have more sympathy for a 20th century mechanical engineer choosing to go work for a defence contractor than a 21st century software engineer taking a lucrative job at a company like Palantir or today's twitter, because there are so many decent paying more ethical alternatives.

There's not even anything especially technically interesting about working for the evil side of silicon valley! At least working for Lockheed can mean helping design an amazing beautiful death machine, and lead to some complicated feelings on one's deathbed. But if you worked on Nazi Grok? That's just embarassing. Forget the banality of evil, it's the cringe of evil. Nobody is going to look at you like some kind of Oppenheimer tormented genius at a dinner party.

Re: Elon Musk's Grok praises Hitler, shares antisemitic tropes in new posts

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Every major social media is complying with government takedowns. None of them are operating illegally. Saying twitter is the most censored is completely delusional. "Controversial" (e.g alex jones, nick fuentes) people can't even make an account on other social media sites

> Saying twitter is the most censored is completely delusional It's simply the facts. Elon allows people like Nick Fuentes and Alex Jones on the site because they share a political agenda. Twitter is the only social media site where e.g. links to competitor platforms are suppressed while the owner of the site artificially boosts his own posts above those that are more popular. Twitter is the most cutting edge censors…

What political agenda does he share with Nick Fuentes? They are complete opposites.

Links to competitor platforms being suppressed lol. Other social media sites ban you for having viewpoints that do not align with theirs. Who cares about linking to competitor platforms?

Re: Elon Musk's Grok praises Hitler, shares antisemitic tropes in new posts

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post #105
post #52

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At least the third time this year, but every post on HN related to grok's prompt gets flagged soon after, with a rigor not shared by any other political or "celebrity" topic.

How do you tell how much a topic is being flagged? Don't flagged posts disappear?

If you sort by /new or /active you can see flagged posts.
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