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Re: My open source project was relicensed by a YC company [license updated]

#101
post #42

looks like they fixed it: https://github.com/pickle-com/glass/commit/5c462179acface889... let's not freak out - you can't "steal" open-source code, they used an incompatible license. that was accidentally too free. people monetizing something you open-source isn't stealing.

And they've now orphaned that commit, they're a sketchy bunch at best.

Unfortunately, sketchy is generally rewarded.

Re: My open source project was relicensed by a YC company [license updated]

#102
post #42

looks like they fixed it: https://github.com/pickle-com/glass/commit/5c462179acface889... let's not freak out - you can't "steal" open-source code, they used an incompatible license. that was accidentally too free. people monetizing something you open-source isn't stealing.

And they've now orphaned that commit, they're a sketchy bunch at best. Unfortunately, sketchy is generally rewarded.

It looks like they've squashed everything into a single commit, since there's only a commit on their repo right now that was pushed 28 minutes ago (as of this comment).

That's probably the right thing to do Git-wise, because licences might not be retroactive.

Re: My open source project was relicensed by a YC company [license updated]

#103
post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In general, I try to add a fingerprint into the output. For example, in a project which generates images I usually set a specific set of pixels.

Sure, but if they have access to your code then a company could pay a junior engineer to look for any kinds of explicit fingerprints and remove it.

Some companies that steal open source code are likely to cheap out on even this.

Re: My open source project was relicensed by a YC company [license updated]

#104
post #56
post #42

looks like they fixed it: https://github.com/pickle-com/glass/commit/5c462179acface889... let's not freak out - you can't "steal" open-source code, they used an incompatible license. that was accidentally too free. people monetizing something you open-source isn't stealing.

From what I understand, it would be a breach of contract at minimum (based on what I remember from past discussions of this sort of activity involving different participants). If someone else has a better idea of what “forking GPL 3 source code and using a different licence” would be, then please let me and others know.

>From what I understand, it would be a breach of contract at minimum

Isn't that the minimum bar for a "business model" capable of attracting VC interest these days?

Re: My open source project was relicensed by a YC company [license updated]

#105
post #82
post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

i love open source because it feels like a kind of donation i can't make financially, so in a way, i'm trying to make up for that but yeah someone claiming it all falsely isnt good for the motivation

Wouldn’t this still be accomplished with a freeware model? That way hobbyists could still get your stuff for free but a corporation would have a slightly more difficult time directly stealing it.

when i started using computer i jumped to linux ecosystem in a month, and have been using it primarily until very recently

i personally dont feel good using things that are not opensource, yeah i use closed source softwares but i try to limit them

Re: My open source project was relicensed by a YC company [license updated]

#106
post #100

This being on page 2 with 247 upvotes in the three hour time period this post has been up is surprising to me. I wouldn't be surprised if @dang is suppressing it (but I'd also be happy to hear that it's not being suppressed). It's pretty spineless for the Pickle team to come out and pretend they mistakenly re-licensed GPL code. Hilarious. > in initially building it we included code from a GPL-licensed project that we…

The first rule of HN moderation is that we moderate (i.e., intervene) less if a story reflects negatively on a YC company or YC itself. This principle goes right back to pg days, and was the first thing he taught dang [1]. That said, it doesn't mean we avoid moderation at all and it doesn't mean the guidelines all go out the window. Different factors influence the story's rank and visibility on the front page: upvote…

Setting the license text is an explicit act and it seems fairly unlikely for anyone who creates software to think they can relicence GPL code or to think they didn't need to Google it first. Doing something that you meant to do isn't a mistake it's a choice.

It seems more likely that they didn't think anyone would notice.

Re: My open source project was relicensed by a YC company [license updated]

#107

Hi everyone, this is Daniel from the Pickle team. Glass is a new open source project from us that we plan to build on and improve. We built several original features for it like live summaries, real-time STT Transcript and one-click "Ask" from summary that we're very excited about. However in initially building it we included code from a GPL-licensed project that we incorrectly attributed as Apache. This was incorrec…

You won’t be forgiven unless you restore the license to GPL v3.

Re: My open source project was relicensed by a YC company [license updated]

#108
post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The first rule of HN moderation is that we moderate (i.e., intervene) less if a story reflects negatively on a YC company or YC itself. This principle goes right back to pg days, and was the first thing he taught dang [1]. That said, it doesn't mean we avoid moderation at all and it doesn't mean the guidelines all go out the window. Different factors influence the story's rank and visibility on the front page: upvote…

Setting the license text is an explicit act and it seems fairly unlikely for anyone who creates software to think they can relicence GPL code or to think they didn't need to Google it first. Doing something that you meant to do isn't a mistake it's a choice. It seems more likely that they didn't think anyone would notice.

> It seems more likely that they didn't think anyone would notice.

Maybe, but if that's what they thought (and I have no idea, I haven't spoken to them or anyone else about it), it's very foolish, because this kind of thing will always get noticed eventually, especially if the project becomes successful.

Re: My open source project was relicensed by a YC company [license updated]

#109

Hi everyone, this is Daniel from the Pickle team. Glass is a new open source project from us that we plan to build on and improve. We built several original features for it like live summaries, real-time STT Transcript and one-click "Ask" from summary that we're very excited about. However in initially building it we included code from a GPL-licensed project that we incorrectly attributed as Apache. This was incorrec…

You won’t be forgiven unless you restore the license to GPL v3.

You restored the license to GPL v3: https://github.com/pickle-com/glass/commit/5c462179acface889...

You won't be forgiven unless you credited sohzm and state that cheating-daddy is a direct inspiration

Re: My open source project was relicensed by a YC company [license updated]

#110
post #56
post #42

looks like they fixed it: https://github.com/pickle-com/glass/commit/5c462179acface889... let's not freak out - you can't "steal" open-source code, they used an incompatible license. that was accidentally too free. people monetizing something you open-source isn't stealing.

From what I understand, it would be a breach of contract at minimum (based on what I remember from past discussions of this sort of activity involving different participants). If someone else has a better idea of what “forking GPL 3 source code and using a different licence” would be, then please let me and others know.

If you don't follow the license, then you don't have a license to use, distribute or modify the code. So then you get into copyright violation territory, up to $150,000 per infringement in the US if it's intentional.
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