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Microsoft extends free Windows 10 security updates into 2026

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Re: Microsoft extends free Windows 10 security updates into 2026

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Post by hhh »

ManlyBread wrote: post #35
hhh wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

they don’t force you to use an online account

They make it close to impossible to install windows without making an account, you either need to mess around in the registry or run some weird Powershell commands in order to skip the account creation step. They do this because they know a non-technical person will just create an account instead. It's fucking bullshit and it is 100% intentional.

this is not true, you can just create a local account with Windows 11 Pro and not use the online stuff at all.

Re: Microsoft extends free Windows 10 security updates into 2026

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Post by Yeul »

stego-tech wrote: post #82
eviks wrote: post #49

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Interesting, how many of your friends stuck with Linux after trying out?

Adding another datapoint: We're down to just three Windows boxes (four if you count the Xbox Series X) in our household, and are likely to winnow that down further following the resounding success of a Linux gaming box on old Sandy Bridge CPU + GTX 970 GPU + HDD. The eldest gamer in the household is so sick of Microsoft's nonsense that the only reason they're not fully on Linux already is because their production box…

The desktop computer is dying. The only reason why I still have one is because I play videogames. Serious stuff is done on my phone.

If we want to talk about disaster it's that Microsoft lost the smartphone battle. The real future of computing.

Re: Microsoft extends free Windows 10 security updates into 2026

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Post by fluidcruft »

p_ing wrote: post #95
fluidcruft wrote: post #74

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Don't forget Windows 10 was marketed by Microsoft as the final version of Windows. Plenty of people are probably fed up with Microsoft's games.

It was never marketed as such; it was a single dev evangelist running their mouth.

> When I reached out to Microsoft about Nixon’s comments, the company didn’t dismiss them at all. “Recent comments at Ignite about Windows 10 are reflective of the way Windows will be delivered as a service bringing new innovations and updates in an ongoing manner, with continuous value for our consumer and business customers,” says a Microsoft spokesperson in a statement to The Verge. “We aren’t speaking to future branding at this time, but customers can be confident Windows 10 will remain up-to-date and power a variety of devices from PCs to phones to Surface Hub to HoloLens and Xbox. We look forward to a long future of Windows innovations.”

https://www.theverge.com/2015/5/7/8568473/windows-10-last-ve...

Re: Microsoft extends free Windows 10 security updates into 2026

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Post by Yeul »

hhh wrote: post #32
GeekyBear wrote: post #24

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> I know people love to hate on Microsoft People rag on a company that is trying to force you to use an online account to log onto your local PC? Doesn't using Windows Backup to qualify for these extended Windows 10 security updates require that you purchase more than the default amount of cloud storage too?

they don’t force you to use an online account

Well they sure as hell make it difficult! I had to install Windows on a new PC and the "remove the ethernet cable" trick no longer worked.

Re: Microsoft extends free Windows 10 security updates into 2026

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Post by ryanjshaw »

eviks wrote: post #49
Xelbair wrote: post #43

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anecdotal evidence, but even my non-IT friends prefer to try out Linux than upgrade to w11. Meanwhile most corporate already swapped to w11. 53% is a huge failure on MS part, but that's what happens when you design OS to be a bad copy of your competition.

Interesting, how many of your friends stuck with Linux after trying out?

Spent about 12mo on Linux (Ubuntu, Debian, Mint) and there were just too many issues.

Ubuntu had weird quirks that almost always turned out to be related to my using a snap package. Of course I wasted countless hours getting to the point where I realised that was the issue.

Mint stopped booting once for unknown reasons on modern hardware and I had to reinstall. Another time I wasted half my day trying to get my whatever-the-distro-calls-taskbar to reappear when it decided to disappear. Debian was stable but every time I had an issue I had to battle through advice that was too new to apply.

Linux is great at making me feel like I’m crazy - I must have wasted 2 hours trying to figure out how to get an app image to run nicely from the whatever-the-distro-calls-a-start-button. Everything seemed so complex and backwards compared to Windows. I have to configure the icon myself?! This was automatic in Windows 3.1. I wasted so much time thinking I was missing a better way only to realise, nope, this is the way. It was bizarre that everybody was happy to run a random 3rd party GitHub app to solve this. Unbelievable that in 2025 downloading an app and getting an icon to start it involved so much complexity (appimage vs flatpak vs snap vs gz vs sh… who the hell has time to figure this out?!).

Eventually I decided I’d had enough and don’t want to spend the rest of my life messing around like I’m a teenager with all the time in the world, and switched everything over to Apple, which is working out great.

Re: Microsoft extends free Windows 10 security updates into 2026

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Post by johnklos »

corysama wrote: post #23

I'd be happy to upgrade to 11 if they would let me. I'm running 10 on a powerful, expensive PC that 11 won't accept.

That it doesn't run Windows 11 is a feature - that way, you can choose when to make the move, or choose not to, or choose something else entirely.

Re: Microsoft extends free Windows 10 security updates into 2026

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Post by fsflover »

anton-c wrote: post #61
mouse_ wrote: post #9

I wish I could still use 7

Obviously couldn't be used in most commercial spaces but would it really be that harmful to run at home? I'm not that knowledgeable about computer security. Just don't know why a hacker would target a random home user, if that's even the fear.

> Just don't know why a hacker would target a random home user

For example, in order to to create a botnet.

Re: Microsoft extends free Windows 10 security updates into 2026

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Post by fredfish »

goosedragons wrote: post #47
paulkrush wrote: post #4

Microsoft announced that you can extend Windows 10 support if you enroll in Microsoft Backup or purchase “Microsoft Points.” Just think if they get printer manufacturers in on this, just to keep your ink cartridges “authentic” and up to date, and you can keep using Windows 10. And so on... It’s interesting/unsettling to extrapolate a dystopian future from these moves. Keiichi Matsuda’s short film “Hyper-Reality”: htt…

You don't purchase Microsoft points. You can purchase extra support with 1000 Microsoft points that you can easily get for free in like a week clicking on some links on Bing.

I haven't heard of that absurd business model since the Internet 1.0 bubble popped.

Re: Microsoft extends free Windows 10 security updates into 2026

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Post by Eavolution »

FirmwareBurner wrote: post #97
d0100 wrote: post #70

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I'm still on a i7 4770k, waiting for non-bugged intel CPU's to launch, and upgrading to Win11 always fails

>waiting for non-bugged intel CPU's to launch What?!

I'm assuming they're talking about spectre/meltdown which have mitigations slowing down performance, but the hardware is vulnerable without those mitigations
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