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Look at Debian
It's in the repository, no? I don't remember having trouble installing docker on debian.
You need to add their repository. It's way harder than it should be.
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#102Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's in the repository, no? I don't remember having trouble installing docker on debian.
You need to add their repository. It's way harder than it should be.
I'm 80% sure i use this one and it works for me https://packages.debian.org/trixie/docker.io
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#103Repeat after me and frame this. Never build your main business on somebody else's platform. Always assume that you will get shutdown / rugged when you do so.
> Never build your main business on somebody else's platform. Are there any (profitable) phone apps that are not build on top of the app/play store?
They're distributed through the stores, but not built on top of them, as is evidenced by the fact that you can distribute the same app on both platforms.
Android also supports third party stores/standalone installers and iOS is fighting an ongoing legal battle due to its lack of a permanent equivalent.
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#105General PSA: in most situations these things like "terms of service" and "breach notice" have no legal effect. (I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice) What they do is the same as a "cease and desist": they warn you that Discord might consider suing you or might try to ban you by technical means. It's all about business, not what the terms say. If Discord thinks BotGhost is good for Discord's bottom line, the…
Discord has been against botting personal accounts for a long time. If you want to automate, you make a bot account and ask the server permission to join with it.
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#106Tokens got leaked on BotGhost and BotGhost straight up REFUSED to instruct their customers to rotate their keys. I am with Discord, as BotGhost has shown to not be able to securely store keys
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#107I've often thought about the amount of data that these bot services must have access to (they could log millions of private channels), data thats silo'd away from search engines/indexers and could be pretty valuable to sell to someone training an AI model, or doing other things. A while back there was a service called 'Spy Pet' that ran hundreds of discord bots selling access to searchable data logs. I wonder if disc…
Discord locked down the ability of bots to read message contents back in 2022. For bots used in over 100 servers, doing so now requires explicit approval from Discord (in addition to the standard approval the server owner would need to give). For most bots, the rest of the bot API is rich enough for this to not be an issue.
That cuts out a lot of the value for LLM training; and will reduce the blast radius if Discord ever decides to fully pull the plug on message access.
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Wait, doesn't every company have a monopoly on access to its users? Are we all monopolies?
No? LinkedIn lost a lawsuit about prohibiting third parties tools from accessing its site, Matrix has strong interop, Elite Dangerous offers OAuth API for sign-in and player data download, and so on. There are others but that’s sixty seconds worth of thinking about it. Mastodon metastasized the user store but each site is still a tiny centralized user store. That’s how user stores work. Doesn’t mean they’re automatic…
So my small app that had maybe 50k users at peak never allowed third party integrations. How is that not a monopoly by this definition? Would it have been more or less of a monopoly if I had allowed third party integrations?
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#109I've often thought about the amount of data that these bot services must have access to (they could log millions of private channels), data thats silo'd away from search engines/indexers and could be pretty valuable to sell to someone training an AI model, or doing other things. A while back there was a service called 'Spy Pet' that ran hundreds of discord bots selling access to searchable data logs. I wonder if disc…
Discord locked down the ability of bots to read message contents back in 2022. For bots used in over 100 servers, doing so now requires explicit approval from Discord (in addition to the standard approval the server owner would need to give). For most bots, the rest of the bot API is rich enough for this to not be an issue. That cuts out a lot of the value for LLM training; and will reduce the blast radius if Discord…
To read message archives or to read messages in realtime? Because I was working on a sideproject that required monitoring the messages in a channel, not just slash commands.
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Discord locked down the ability of bots to read message contents back in 2022. For bots used in over 100 servers, doing so now requires explicit approval from Discord (in addition to the standard approval the server owner would need to give). For most bots, the rest of the bot API is rich enough for this to not be an issue. That cuts out a lot of the value for LLM training; and will reduce the blast radius if Discord…
To read message archives or to read messages in realtime? Because I was working on a sideproject that required monitoring the messages in a channel, not just slash commands.
Read messages in realtime.