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Fairphone 6 is switching to a new design that's even more sustainable

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Re: Fairphone 6 is switching to a new design that's even more sustainable

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Post by mystified5016 »

2muchcoffeeman wrote: post #93
xavdid wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I honestly don't get why people like Face ID more Big +1. Face ID fails way more than Touch ID ever did. I know you couldn't your finger with wet hands or gloves, but that didn't come up all that much. Face ID fails multiple times per day, every day. I can't unlock my phone well in bed, while brushing teeth, while it's sitting on a table not directly in front of me, if I'm in direct sunlight, in a car mount, etc. T…

Why would sunlight make a difference? It uses infra red to map your face right?

Sunlight contains a lot of IR.

Re: Fairphone 6 is switching to a new design that's even more sustainable

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Post by davidmurdoch »

guappa wrote: post #90
snapplebobapple wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you tried phones with it on the power button? That was the best for me by far.

Yeah it's great! I want to put off the screen and instantly after going off, it reads my finger and goes on again! Who came up with that idea?

Asus?

Re: Fairphone 6 is switching to a new design that's even more sustainable

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Post by charcircuit »

ppseafield wrote: post #13
msgodel wrote: post #8

They should switch to an SOC with mainline Linux support so you don't have to throw it out in three years.

Which SoC should they switch to? Google's Pixel phones for Android 16's release just updated[0] their kernels to 6.1, which means the bleeding edge kernel version for Android phones is a release from December 2022. What Qualcomm SoCs are supported by this kernel, and how fast are they? [0] https://www.androidauthority.com/pixel-linux-6-1-android-15-...

Android 16 uses the latest LTS branch of Linux which is 6.12.

Re: Fairphone 6 is switching to a new design that's even more sustainable

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Post by bradyd »

xavdid wrote: post #96
2muchcoffeeman wrote: post #93

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Why would sunlight make a difference? It uses infra red to map your face right?

I have no idea, but it's a constant source of frustration. Sunglasses also lead to failed reads, which makes a little more sense but is just as frustrating. "Here's a new phone. It works great except you can't use it quickly if you're wearing sunglasses. Sorry!"

It works with some sunglasses. Probably related to the coating on the lens.

Re: Fairphone 6 is switching to a new design that's even more sustainable

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Post by BariumBlue »

bombela wrote: post #11
strangecasts wrote: post #2

Was lucky enough to get my Fairphone 4 on sale, but I'd happily pay full price now - even though the Fairphones are pricey for the specs, unless you absolutely need 24 cores etc. I'd say they are worth it, knowing the company is at least trying to improve the parts supply chain, and knowing you stand a chance of fixing the devices yourself (luckily I've only had to replace the USB-C port, which was trivial) About the…

The removal of the phone jack is so obviously planned obsolescence, it is ironic that this project for sustainability follows the trend. Wired headphones still have better sound quality. Don't need charging. Don't break with software update. But because of that it means less consumption. Think about how insane it is that companies can remove the phone jack and glue in the battery with the very obvious goal of planned…

I use my USB-C port to listen to my wired headphones all the time, no problem. Phone jack is now redundant now that USB-C can output audio

Re: Fairphone 6 is switching to a new design that's even more sustainable

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Post by Artoooooor »

strangecasts wrote: post #2

Was lucky enough to get my Fairphone 4 on sale, but I'd happily pay full price now - even though the Fairphones are pricey for the specs, unless you absolutely need 24 cores etc. I'd say they are worth it, knowing the company is at least trying to improve the parts supply chain, and knowing you stand a chance of fixing the devices yourself (luckily I've only had to replace the USB-C port, which was trivial) About the…

Still no headphone jack in fairphone 6? Damn, I was almost sure it will by my next phone :(

Re: Fairphone 6 is switching to a new design that's even more sustainable

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Post by Pfeil »

guappa wrote: post #90
snapplebobapple wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you tried phones with it on the power button? That was the best for me by far.

Yeah it's great! I want to put off the screen and instantly after going off, it reads my finger and goes on again! Who came up with that idea?

Reading this on my Fairphone 5 and can't reproduce this issue. But I admit that sometimes I just want to see the lock screen and accidentally unlock the phone. Therefore, I still agree. The back is the better position for the fingerprint reader.

Re: Fairphone 6 is switching to a new design that's even more sustainable

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Post by lynndotpy »

godelski wrote: post #7

They mention the Pixel and I just got to say, I wish someone would bring back the fingerprint reader on the back of the phone. That was seriously the best solution. Fastest way to unlock your phone, because no matter how slow the fingerprint reader is you activate it while pulling it out of your pocket. I honestly don't get why people like Face ID more (what I currently use). Someone, please bring this back

And even if it's not much of a dent, with a case, it makes a fantastic divot for holding your phone. I hate FaceID and I miss fingerprint scanners.

Re: Fairphone 6 is switching to a new design that's even more sustainable

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Post by Topfi »

OkayPhysicist wrote: post #89
GoatInGrey wrote: post #85

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So when I reach the trailhead and realize that my dongle is back at home, I can still use my headphones to listen to a podcast as I hike. Or maybe I'm out in public with others and want them to listen to something but my dongle is at home so I now need to play audio over the speakers in a public setting. It comes down to having choice and not being funnelled into overpriced wireless earbuds. Which Fairphone began sel…

What else are you plugging your headphones into? Again, the pitch here is leaving the dongle basically permanently attached to the headphones, effectively turning them into a set of usb-c wired headphones. I was hesitant about abandoning the headphone jack, too, until I realized that the higher-end phones I'd effectively locked myself out of charge in 10% of the time.

> What else are you plugging your headphones into?

My Macbook, my work laptop, my e-piano, my Note9, my BTR7, ...

Don't get me wrong, I understand far too well why no new flagship offers the jack anymore and wireless/USB-C is truly amazingly convenient for the vast majority of users, even audio quality wise, but sadly we are still very far from either being universal, either because the standard is still 1/8 or 1/4 inch or latency is key (in the case of instruments both). Also, USB-C ports are finite so using the small 3.5mm port is often preferable. So just keeping the dongle plugged in, sadly not an option. Apple Dongle DACs are easily lost too, ask me how I know.

Am very far removed from the mainstream customer and accept that in any case, my dream phone would likely bankrupt whoever was dumb enough to bankroll it, so I'll just deal with the compromise.

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