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Re: YouTube's new anti-adblock measures

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Post by k12sosse »

ranger_danger wrote: post #9

I'm surprised they don't just inject the ads directly into the video stream, I think that would solve their issue overnight (not that I want any ads personally). You could also rate-limit it to the playback speed to prevent pre-downloading the stream easily. But now that everything uses HLS/DASH, it's easy to inject different content right in the middle of the stream without re-encoding anything.

How does Twitch do it? They're super aggressive and even using third party clients that do a good job and not displaying ads, you still get an occasional "commercial break" screen where they're not serving you the content, or the ad, just a "let's all go to the lobby" screen.

Re: YouTube's new anti-adblock measures

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Post by antoniojtorres »

ttyyzz wrote: post #70
thallium205 wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Youtube Premium is very expensive?

I would pay that 130€ / year if I was alone. I have to be responsible with the money I earn as I have to feed 3 kids and my wife is not working. We also use other different streaming services like netflix, spotify family... adding youtube premium seems not reasonable for me at the moment.

Commenting to share my experience: I ran into and ended up with youtube because it bundles youtube music as well, allowing me to consolidate. I was able to invite my household to the same account.

I also wanted to ensure my views resulted in the creators being paid, it goes without saying that the royalties for streaming are abysmal and is a separate conversation, but it was a contributing factor for me.

Re: YouTube's new anti-adblock measures

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Post by k12sosse »

bitpush wrote: post #50
brightmood wrote: post #48

So you buy premium - now you don't have ads from YouTube anymore. But now YouTubers such as LinusTechTips and who else not want monthly payments for their exclusive content. Yea, that's not going to work. Now your watchers don't watch your content.

That's a self correcting situation. If LTT sees a huge drop in their views/subscribers, they'll correct the situation. .. or a competitor (who's a competitor to LTT? GamerNexus? MKBHD?) would take their place.

Admittedly don't watch LTT because basically the content is the advertisement. Maybe it's changed.

Re: YouTube's new anti-adblock measures

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Post by k12sosse »

simion314 wrote: post #87
ranger_danger wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How else would you propose they make money (and satisfy contract obligations)? Because nobody else has figured out a better solution.

>How else would you propose they make money (and satisfy contract obligations)? Because nobody else has figured out a better solution. Do they make money from those millions of devices that run with the screen on? How ? Is some devil paying them for the damage caused to the environment? For ads it makes sense but not for this shit policy, if they hate the users that they use youtube for free and ads are not enough fo…

For babies crying I just come to the YT premium threads on HN.

Re: YouTube's new anti-adblock measures

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Post by southernplaces7 »

tmaly wrote: post #94

The number of ads they run reminds me of the good old days where half of the TV show time was commercials.

Absurd but true in a similar way: I get a tiny spark of nostalgia on those occasions where a bit of sponsored promotion pops into part of some podcast i'm listening to as a YT video while I do chores. (Ublock running, so no third party ads at least)

The thing about those idiotic third party ads on YouTube, which is so grotesquely annoying is that, unlike TV ads of old, some of then can literally run for dozens of minutes at auto-increased volume unless you go to your device and skip them at some point. That is some particularly shitty nonsense right there.

Re: YouTube's new anti-adblock measures

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Post by pie_flavor »

ttyyzz wrote: post #29

Having to pay for something so that's "less annoying" is the worst business model. YouTube Premium is very expensive. I had it for a while when I got a Pixel smartphone with a few months of YouTube Premium included. It was great. I also understand that streaming on this scale must entail incredibly high operating costs; the money has to come from somewhere. It's simply a dilemma. But there has to be a better way. Any…

Premium is a good deal if you would have already had Music, and Music is pretty great while also being a good deal. They also have a cheaper 'Premium Lite' these days, though apparently some content still has ads if you use it.

Re: YouTube's new anti-adblock measures

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Post by MathMonkeyMan »

ysavir wrote: post #15

I've been getting these buffer loading times recently, and ironically, I don't mind them all that much. The annoyance of ads isn't primarily in the time it takes up, but in having the audio play and a video feed run that isn't the video I clicked on. If an actual ad played, I'd be irritated beyond belief. But when there's a 12 second buffer, I have enough patience training for slow load times that I instinctively jus…

Yeah I've been getting the initial delay with the popup "find out why playback is slow." No thanks, I already know, and it's not so bad.

Re: YouTube's new anti-adblock measures

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Post by southernplaces7 »

If YouTube's ads were like the TV ads of olden days, they might even be marginally tolerable. They're not however.

In my experience, they not only deliberately increase volume to pretty much screech whatever insipid bullshit is being offered at you, but they also can sometimes run for dozens of minutes unless you manually go to your device and press "skip". TV ads never did these sorts of utterly shitty, tedious things.

I even wonder how anything so fucking hostile and annoying to a YT free user can possibly be effective? Who's actively paying for all this garbage ad placement with such scummy little playback mechanics?

Re: YouTube's new anti-adblock measures

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Post by Madmallard »

thangalin wrote: post #100

Mostly stolen from elsewhere: ! Stop sites from prompting to sign into Google account ||accounts.google.com/gsi/*$xhr,script,3p ! Stop annoying reels from littering friend feeds www.facebook.com##[aria-label="reel"]:upward(2) youtube.com##.ytp-ce-element youtube.com##.ytp-ce-element-show youtube.com##+js(set, yt.config_.openPopupConfig.supportedPopups.adBlockMessageViewModel, false) youtube.com##+js(set, Object.proto…

Is this something to put in host file? What is this

Re: YouTube's new anti-adblock measures

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Post by noman-land »

ranger_danger wrote: post #9

I'm surprised they don't just inject the ads directly into the video stream, I think that would solve their issue overnight (not that I want any ads personally). You could also rate-limit it to the playback speed to prevent pre-downloading the stream easily. But now that everything uses HLS/DASH, it's easy to inject different content right in the middle of the stream without re-encoding anything.

There exists crowdsourced adblocking based on timestamps (SponsorBlock, Tubular). Soon we will have realtime on-device content-aware AI adblocking. They will ever win.
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