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#102My wife, god bless her, is really good with people. I try very hard to mimic her, but this multi-round interaction has completely permeated how she interacts over tech, even with tech. I cannot manage it. Her: "Alexa, add to shopping list". "OK, what should I add for you". "Peanut butter". "OK, peanut butter added, what else?". . Me: "Alexa add peanut butter to shopping list". "Peanut butter added". Some people are T…
“Alexa add peanut butter to shopping list" “Alexa add peanut butter to shopping list" “Alexa add peanut butter to shopping list". “Peanut butter added. Peanut butter added. Peanut butter added.”
This is what you get when you don't check for PIPELINING in the EHLO response like you are supposed to. (-:
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#103Earlier quoted context omitted.
My whole family uses Siri—both through our phones and through the HomePod mini in the kitchen—to add items to the shopping list. Siri occasionally misunderstands the name of the item, or needs to ask who's speaking (when on the HomePod), or has trouble because the phone of the person asking has briefly dropped off the Wifi, but in the ~5 years we've had it, I can count on one hand the number of times adding has just…
Let me guess, you have an American accent?
Well, mine personally shifts frequently to British—but yes; I can see that that could cause a problem for some people, especially if their accent is not a specific one that Siri's been trained on.
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#104Earlier quoted context omitted.
> It’s a boomer tendency. wat. No, it isn't. I see it almost 100% from young people who live in India. And that probably isn't the right criteria either - it is probably different people within each organization. This is a cultural thing, not generational.
I am in no way qualified on this, but my assumption was that this comes from cultures that consider getting straight to business rude. So while I do find it annoying, I also try to be polite back and I certainly won't be putting some "No Hello" link. If it is a cultural thing and coming from a place of politeness, then I'll engage in a quick round of pleasantries. Once people are familiar, I've noticed this stops.
It definitely is cultural, but I've never viewed it from the perspective of getting straight to business being rude. A bit like in the UK, "weather chat" is a very standard point of conversation at the start of a meeting with people you aren't too familiar with, as a reflexive ice breaker.
For me personally, whilst I understand all the reasoning and logic behind it, it does ultimately come across as fake and unnecessary - everyone knows it's fake and unnecessary, but we ritualistically do it anyway, because the alternative is too jarring "we're here for work, lets do the work, and we're done"
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#105I don't understand why messaging apps send repeated notifications for multiple messages instead of staying silent for a time. You've notified once of the first message, it's enough for the next 30s.
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#106Yknow what? This doesn't bother me. I've had coworkers who do this. You just respond "hello!" and maybe they just ask their question, or maybe they ask about your day, or whatever else. God forbid I spend an extra 4 seconds per day thinking about a person I work with. Do "hello" messages waste time? Yes. Am I happy to field them anyway? Yes!
It's good to communicate with others while putting an effort into keeping the other party as comfortable as possible. That's a sign of respect, but it also goes both ways.
Both ways. It can't be just one side always bending backwards while the other doesn't, without even any intention to meet in the middle.
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#107I'm the original author of this content. I wrote it on the internal wiki at Google in 2007. Someone copied it and posted it at nohello.(something) after I left Google. It's made the front page of HN multiple times. The discussions always split between the people who just want to get on with the conversation and the people who can't bring themselves to do that because they consider it unforgivably rude. The second gro…
There's another reason for 'hello' ... it's a way to make sure you have the other person's attention before launching into a topic or question.
Re: No Hello
#108My wife, god bless her, is really good with people. I try very hard to mimic her, but this multi-round interaction has completely permeated how she interacts over tech, even with tech. I cannot manage it. Her: "Alexa, add to shopping list". "OK, what should I add for you". "Peanut butter". "OK, peanut butter added, what else?". . Me: "Alexa add peanut butter to shopping list". "Peanut butter added". Some people are T…
“Alexa add peanut butter to shopping list" “Alexa add peanut butter to shopping list" “Alexa add peanut butter to shopping list". “Peanut butter added. Peanut butter added. Peanut butter added.”
"Alexa add peanut butter to shopping list".
"It's currently raining would you like to see the forecast for tomorrow also I found this routine you might like would you like me to enable it"
writes peanut butter on a piece of paper
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#109Earlier quoted context omitted.
You can still say hi, with the first message of the day, that's a nice human touch, and not the point here: say hi + what you need to say, that's the point
Good morning can be nice for that but if you actually have something to say make it the first part of the same message as the content. Saying Hello or good morning and then spending multiple minutes composing your actual message while I'm attending you is extremely annoying. Quite frankly though I don't think it makes sense to do any of that outside a group chat. Just say what you want to say and get out.
I just send it as one message. So something along the lines of:
Hi [Name],
[Message content]
Re: No Hello
#110Earlier quoted context omitted.
>they start conversations and are interrupted It's not about interruption really, it's about a style of using chat apps that wastes peoples' attention and is easily avoided. > they receive hundreds of notifications okay, so this nohello thing is good advice to help reduce the noise.
not to mention that if someone is supposed to be a professional coordinator, they would benefit from being a good communicator. starting a discussion with "hi" and disappearing for minutes is absolutely disrespectful and shitty, not to mention the opposite of efficient. they need to work on their time management.
I mean, maybe I’m rude but if someone just messages me Hi on slack I simply ignore it until they send something more substantial.