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Danish Ministry Replaces Windows and Microsoft Office with Linux and LibreOffice

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Re: Danish Ministry Replaces Windows and Microsoft Office with Linux and LibreOffice

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Post by trelane »

jve wrote: post #45
mrweasel wrote: post #24

As many IT people in Denmark is pointing out, it's not really about replacing Office and Windows, it's all the surrounding infrastructure that will be the main issue. Are these Linux machines going to authenticate against the Azure Active Directory, maybe just a local Active Directory, or are the IT department going to run a separate service in parallel? Are they moving away from Exchange Server... probably not, give…

> Are these Linux machines going to authenticate against the Azure Active Directory... Are they using Intune, if so what's the replacement strategy where? This comes up all the time when we talk about Linux in corporate deployment. As I have only experience in MS word regarding governance, let me ask this: - Is there really no tools for Linux world that allows managing loads of Linux machines in an easy manner as it…

If it exists, I expect it would be in Red Hat Enterprise Linux or Ubuntu. Most of us don't use those, though, so I don't expect the knowledge is common.

Re: Danish Ministry Replaces Windows and Microsoft Office with Linux and LibreOffice

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Post by eu_os »

skinkestek wrote: post #33
mrweasel wrote: post #24

As many IT people in Denmark is pointing out, it's not really about replacing Office and Windows, it's all the surrounding infrastructure that will be the main issue. Are these Linux machines going to authenticate against the Azure Active Directory, maybe just a local Active Directory, or are the IT department going to run a separate service in parallel? Are they moving away from Exchange Server... probably not, give…

I'm currently working at a large public institution in Norway. Half the team runs Linux, and the only real constraint is using Edge for SSO. (Firefox works too - you just have to actually log in like it's 2008.) Honestly, everything else runs smoother than what my Windows-using teammates are dealing with.

This sounds really interesting. Are you able to share more about this (even in private) for inclusion in https://eu-os.eu/use-cases ?

Re: Danish Ministry Replaces Windows and Microsoft Office with Linux and LibreOffice

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Post by datadrivenangel »

tonyedgecombe wrote: post #69
fock wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

yesterday: I saw the weird CVE for M365 which "exploits" some LLM through messaging embedded in emails. today: got a very long email, wanted to search for our department in it. Outlook: "Search is a deprecated feature". Despite all the "but you can't extrapolate to a large org from personal experiences"-FUD around, I think for most orgs (especially governments which are generally far behind on processes) it would be…

I was watching my wife navigate Outlook the other day, I can't believe how bad it's got since I last used it. It was completely unresponsive on brand new hardware. The UI was awful.

Outlook has gotten so terrible that the web version is better these days...

Re: Danish Ministry Replaces Windows and Microsoft Office with Linux and LibreOffice

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Post by datadrivenangel »

chaosbolt wrote: post #73
clejack wrote: post #66

I was recently wondering why something of this nature hasn't happened long ago. Governments have to be spending so much money on licensing fees. It seems like you could throw a fraction of that money at open source software, actually make it good and then not be beholden to corporations like Microsoft or Google. Combine this sort push between multiple governments and the world gets good (at least relatively) software…

If you're a government, it makes more sense to throw the money at creating your own infrastructure than paying to make a foreign company control everything you're running. Everything is alright until the country with the highest obesity rate in the world chooses not to honor your patent for ozempic for example and makes it for a lot cheaper back home, then you escalate, then they escalate, something something your so…

If the US sanctions you, it'll be much much harder for American companies like microsoft to send updates legally...

So it's on the escalation ladder for sure.

Re: Danish Ministry Replaces Windows and Microsoft Office with Linux and LibreOffice

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Post by eu_os »

belter wrote: post #67
mrweasel wrote: post #24

As many IT people in Denmark is pointing out, it's not really about replacing Office and Windows, it's all the surrounding infrastructure that will be the main issue. Are these Linux machines going to authenticate against the Azure Active Directory, maybe just a local Active Directory, or are the IT department going to run a separate service in parallel? Are they moving away from Exchange Server... probably not, give…

Or maybe Microsoft is terrified that it will work? Then Bill Gates would not be able to do his 345th pledge of "I will give away all my money..." https://www.freeipa.org/ "Manage Linux users and client hosts in your realm from one central location with CLI, Web UI or RPC access. Enable Single Sign On authentication for all your systems, services and applications." https://www.keycloak.org/ "Open Source Identity and A…

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Re: Danish Ministry Replaces Windows and Microsoft Office with Linux and LibreOffice

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Post by eu_os »

mrweasel wrote: post #38
decide1000 wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hope all employees will use their experience to make a success of this project. Switching to Linux and ditching Micro$oft should be priority of each European country.

I hope so too, but I fear that the implementation is rushed and won't yield the positive results it could have.

That's what the EU OS project is also about! https://eu-os.eu

Re: Danish Ministry Replaces Windows and Microsoft Office with Linux and LibreOffice

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Post by writebetterc »

rcarmo wrote: post #42
thyristan wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is probably just a setting missing from your Firefox profile that allows your company Kerberos realm/domain. If your institution hasn't locked down your Firefox config, you can fix this yourself: https://docs.redhat.com/en/documentation/red_hat_enterprise_...

It’s really not. Edge bundles a number of authentication libraries with the Linux version that enable things like remote passkey support.

You can't use KeepassXC + Firefox? Might need to downgrade the KeepassXC browser plugin (because of a bug)

Re: Danish Ministry Replaces Windows and Microsoft Office with Linux and LibreOffice

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Post by rcarmo »

writebetterc wrote: post #109
rcarmo wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s really not. Edge bundles a number of authentication libraries with the Linux version that enable things like remote passkey support.

You can't use KeepassXC + Firefox? Might need to downgrade the KeepassXC browser plugin (because of a bug)

Nope. Not even close to the same functionality here.
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