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Why wouldn't there be a real person reasoning about it? Am I missing something?
You are not, I believe the previous comment is not grasping what the different usage of LLMs in coding are. The previous poster believes LLMs are for vibe coding only, if I understand correctly.
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You are not, I believe the previous comment is not grasping what the different usage of LLMs in coding are. The previous poster believes LLMs are for vibe coding only, if I understand correctly.
No, I am not. I fully understand people use it on the full range from vibe coding to autocomplete on steroids. Trust none of these levels.
I disagree with this at least. Yes there’s a lot of people doing this, but I don’t think it’s the overwhelming majority, especially not when it comes to coding.
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No, I am not. I fully understand people use it on the full range from vibe coding to autocomplete on steroids. Trust none of these levels.
I think the point we are trying to bring over is, we feel the way you wrote your statement implies you think no one is reviewing the output of LLMs and everyone is just blindly accepting it. I disagree with this at least. Yes there’s a lot of people doing this, but I don’t think it’s the overwhelming majority, especially not when it comes to coding.
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I think the point we are trying to bring over is, we feel the way you wrote your statement implies you think no one is reviewing the output of LLMs and everyone is just blindly accepting it. I disagree with this at least. Yes there’s a lot of people doing this, but I don’t think it’s the overwhelming majority, especially not when it comes to coding.
Nowehre I say anything about code reviews, my comment was about code generation
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I think the point we are trying to bring over is, we feel the way you wrote your statement implies you think no one is reviewing the output of LLMs and everyone is just blindly accepting it. I disagree with this at least. Yes there’s a lot of people doing this, but I don’t think it’s the overwhelming majority, especially not when it comes to coding.
Nowehre I say anything about code reviews, my comment was about code generation
I just asked Claude (the actual app in the browser) to write a function that returns all types that implement a specific interface AND have a method with a specific attribute. Then, I look at the code (and because I already have over 10+ years of experience) I can determine pretty quickly whether it'll work or not and then I bring it in and test it. I could have googled the C# reflection syntax for finding all interfaces, then matching with an attribute on a method, and so forth. But that'll take at least 2-3x as long. Why don't I remember the syntax? Because the syntax itself isn't important. It's the problem I'm solving that is. But now, I can ask specific, tailored questions with context and get specific results. Nowhere in my process does code get produced by itself without human oversight. It's not even a thing I have to worry about. It's such a simple that process it drives me nuts to have to explain it to people.
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Why wouldn't there be a real person reasoning about it? Am I missing something?
You are not, I believe the previous comment is not grasping what the different usage of LLMs in coding are. The previous poster believes LLMs are for vibe coding only, if I understand correctly.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
No, I am not. I fully understand people use it on the full range from vibe coding to autocomplete on steroids. Trust none of these levels.
I think the point we are trying to bring over is, we feel the way you wrote your statement implies you think no one is reviewing the output of LLMs and everyone is just blindly accepting it. I disagree with this at least. Yes there’s a lot of people doing this, but I don’t think it’s the overwhelming majority, especially not when it comes to coding.
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Nowehre I say anything about code reviews, my comment was about code generation
It's all code generation, though. That's what makes this whole conversation so frustrating. For whatever reason, there is a large swath of devs who either are unwilling to admit these tools are useful (and thus have to make ridiculous assumptions like code getting pushed to prod by a bot) or don't have enough experience to understand how to use them. I just asked Claude (the actual app in the browser) to write a func…
> because I already have over 10+ years of experience
How are future developers going to gather a similar experience when LLMs are available. You are comparing what an LLM produces to what you would have produced without. This is absolutely the right approach. What about the next generations though, what will they compare the LLM output with?
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It's all code generation, though. That's what makes this whole conversation so frustrating. For whatever reason, there is a large swath of devs who either are unwilling to admit these tools are useful (and thus have to make ridiculous assumptions like code getting pushed to prod by a bot) or don't have enough experience to understand how to use them. I just asked Claude (the actual app in the browser) to write a func…
unrelated to original point, but to me, the most worrisome point about LLMs: > because I already have over 10+ years of experience How are future developers going to gather a similar experience when LLMs are available. You are comparing what an LLM produces to what you would have produced without. This is absolutely the right approach. What about the next generations though, what will they compare the LLM output with…
I have no clue. I haven't really talked to younger devs about how this helps (or hinders) them. But I think you're onto something, it's paradoxically more useful the more you know.
> And as a last point, I fear very much what’s going on in schools. My son is in school. And the teacher literally said they need to use an LLM otherwise they won’t score high enough because the other pupils are using LLMs and the teacher is using an LLM to grade/check it. This is ridiculous. And if you think that’s okay or you don’t see a serious problem with this, then that’s an even greater problem. If that is tru…