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4-7-8 Breathing

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Re: 4-7-8 Breathing

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Also, there's no 'ding' at the point the breath-out stops and the next breath-in cycle begins.

Yes, this is the big flaw in an otherwise nice little app. If this were fixed you could use it without looking.

Sorry, both should be fixed now. There should be audible cues at all breathing phase transitions and a more visible colour for the radial animation. An awful oversight on my part, my apologies again!

Re: 4-7-8 Breathing

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There is an option under cue sounds, if you're using a phone I think you might need to take it off silent :) Let me know if that works.

No, I think you're possibly misunderstanding the issue. That option you mention allows one to change the sound used, which I suspect we all get, but instead the problem is there's no sound between breathing in and breathing out. You need three audible cues not two.

Got it, this should be fixed now! My apologies :)

Re: 4-7-8 Breathing

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Easily one of the worst UI's I've seen since 2020. Timing the initial in/exhales is tricky, because the circle contracts, not to its center, but to a nearly invisible (on my screen at least) smaller circle in the middle. No visible counters. After a while, it just says "Hold". No indication that we're done. And I sit there, almost dying for 2 minutes before realizing, that it's done some kind of quiet-quitting routin…

Yes, apologies, the centre circle colour scheme was a terrible choice. I've changed it to something more visible. It looked like network errors were blocking the main thread so to speak, that shouldn't be an issue anymore.

I'm glad it's only the worse you have seen since 2020 though, I take that a little as a compliment because frontend design is not my strong point. This is just a fun little thing I made to help me relax before meetings etc.

Re: 4-7-8 Breathing

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You can begin with an easier pattern… Breathing through the nose, in for a count of three and out for five, then repeat. As long as the outbreath is longer than the inbreath, you will get some effect. Could also try relaxing first by massaging the Vagus nerve. An easy way to start with that is to massage in a circular motion the skin area in front of the Tragus (front skin flap) on each ear. You can combine that with…

Even easier: start by simply breathing in and out through your nose, without trying to control the duration. Just sitting and breathing.

The person I replied to needed a gateway to box breathing. This means getting used to mild hypoxia. Not measuring your breathing will probably result in regular patterns where the outbreath is the same or shorter than the inbreath. So, no.

Re: 4-7-8 Breathing

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ok certainly this is a high quality source BUT breathwork should be done with supervision of a practitioner that has some sense. Like swimming (?) this ordinary activity can do great damage in relatively rare situations, or someone trying to do "extreme" practices without guardrails.

Your position is that breathing practice is too dangerous to attempt unsupervised due to risks equivalent to drowning while swimming? While I don't doubt there's a way to breathe so wrong that it has negative effects, I'm sceptical. But I wouldn't think twice about swimming alone, so maybe I live on the edge.

While we all practice breathing since birth I do believe that trying some advanced techniques could be dangerous. See https://zeta.blue/physiology for possible effects.

People have unique physiological, and mental limits. As a toy example we could imagine someone holding their breath until they pass out and fall.

Re: 4-7-8 Breathing

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This is from Indian Hindu text Hathayoga and known as Pranayam not the creation of Dr Andrew You should give the credit to the right text Patanjali Yoga Sutras . Again this should be practiced under a qualified Teacher

Re: 4-7-8 Breathing

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ok certainly this is a high quality source BUT breathwork should be done with supervision of a practitioner that has some sense. Like swimming (?) this ordinary activity can do great damage in relatively rare situations, or someone trying to do "extreme" practices without guardrails.

I made a simple app inspired by Richie Davidson’s research that teaches people how to change their state with breath. https://breathing-trainer.replit.app/

i feel the growing circle could use a fixed area of where it will grow too [and shrink from]

edit; but otherwise, seems simple and great design!

Re: 4-7-8 Breathing

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Even easier: start by simply breathing in and out through your nose, without trying to control the duration. Just sitting and breathing.

The person I replied to needed a gateway to box breathing. This means getting used to mild hypoxia. Not measuring your breathing will probably result in regular patterns where the outbreath is the same or shorter than the inbreath. So, no.

Ok, sure. But the context was a "starting point", which is what I suggested. Babies need to learn to crawl before they walk (let alone run).

Re: 4-7-8 Breathing

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Can you elaborate? As others are saying this can be extremely dangerous. Normally I wouldn't just reiterate other comments but if it might save a life can't hurt to be sure.

Hyperventilating is probably a too strong word. I just draw deep breath 3 to 4 times before going under.

That is still hyperventilating in a technical sense, as is the breathing you're doing for a minute beforehand; both will result in lowering your CO2. If you're actually holding your breath and going under water, please take an intro freediving class. So many people die every year just because they don't have the basic safety training necessary to turn this activity from extraordinarily dangerous to quite safe.
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