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CAPTCHAs are over (in ticketing)

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Re: CAPTCHAs are over (in ticketing)

#102

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Maybe if we do this then those sites will be disincentivized from doing all the tracking. Because consumer's will get their bill, say "what the fuck", and go to a competitor.

That didn’t work at all for cookie banners. People just accept enshittification when it’s just a minor inconvenience. $0.00001 http requests would solidly fall into that category, and then it would just be marginally worse across the board.

Nobody is paying for a cookie banner. Also the cookie banners aren't even required on almost all the sites you see them on - they chose to put those there because they're lazy.

Re: CAPTCHAs are over (in ticketing)

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I don’t get it - why not just tie the ticket to a name and address at time of purchase? Then verify that matches the person using government issued ID upon entry?

How would you handle the following conditions? * I buy a ticket for a friend (maybe as a present) but don't actually want to go to the concert * I buy more than one ticket for a group of people (I'll be attending the concert) * I buy a ticket but have to cancel at the last minute and want to give it to a friend * I don't have an easily available government ID (maybe I never got a drivers license, maybe my drivers lic…

>How would you handle the following conditions?

It doesn't, but that's fine, because it's the cost of preventing scalpers. Everyone just accepts that you can't buy a flight ticket as a present, for instance.

Re: CAPTCHAs are over (in ticketing)

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Why do you think they don’t?

Because the whole business of scalpers is exploiting the difference between the list price and the price people are willing to pay. If this gap didn't exist scalping wouldn't be profitable. (As far as this article as discussing. They also serve some use for reselling tickets when you meant to go but can't but this doesn't have any more downsides)

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Re: CAPTCHAs are over (in ticketing)

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post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why do you think they don’t?

Because the whole business of scalpers is exploiting the difference between the list price and the price people are willing to pay. If this gap didn't exist scalping wouldn't be profitable. (As far as this article as discussing. They also serve some use for reselling tickets when you meant to go but can't but this doesn't have any more downsides)

Yes, but what do you think is the reason why they are not doing what you argue they should do?

Re: CAPTCHAs are over (in ticketing)

#107

Could someone explain why tickets aren't sold via an auction mechanism? Surely that's the only fair way to distribute anything of limited supply

The answer is mentioned in the article. Not all concerts want only people with means to attend. The venue might want to be accessible to low-income members of the community, or it might be a benefit concert, with free tickets and a donation drive.

Re: CAPTCHAs are over (in ticketing)

#108

Tunnel-visioned article, honestly. I mean, why does he gloss over the fact that scalpers don't care about captchas - they can just outsource solving them to other humans. Giving your driver's license or passport to some entertainment company's security-unaware sysadmins doesn't seem like a good idea either. Maybe just accept the fact that you gotta be lucky to see most famous band in the world in person. There are on…

Maybe read it first?

Re: CAPTCHAs are over (in ticketing)

#109
> A related option is to strongly bind purchase limits to other resources that are not easy to acquire quickly in large amounts, such as allowing only X tickets per (verified) phone number

Phone numbers are very easy to get in large numbers. US-based SMS numbers that will pass verification for buying sneakers are ~$0.25 each.

Re: CAPTCHAs are over (in ticketing)

#110

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It's more profitable and predictable for scalpers to immediately buy all tickets. The ticket seller doesn't care if the tickets are sold to fans that will attend, just that they're sold quickly and reliably and non-refundably. It's even better if tickets are sold to scalpers because some of those tickets might never be resold, which means the venue gets the ticket sale but pays none of the cost a real guest would inc…

Surely selling concessions, parking, and merch is a significant source of income for someone associated with the concert, game, or other event.

The way rents/expenses are, an $8 pint at your local has better margin than a $18 pint at the venue.
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