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Re: Sleepbox

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Post by Devilboy »

jfoster wrote: post #98
ranprieur wrote: post #62

"Sleeping in public causes security, privacy and hygiene issues." This sounds like a rationalization. For me, the reasons not to sleep in public are that public spaces are designed to discourage it, and cops will wake me up. Public sleeping should be a right, but if something like Sleepbox becomes common, it will become even harder to sleep without having money.

For me it's definitely about the security of my belongings & personal safety. In certain places personal safety is less of a concern, but belongings are still so easy for someone to walk off with.

You can put those in a locker though

Re: Sleepbox

#102

Post by bergie »

cstross wrote: post #54
veidr wrote: post #28

In Japan we have long had 'coffin hotels' (or 'capsule hotels', pre-Neuromancer). We also have love hotels, which are expressly designed to be rented for two hours at a time to do whatever nasty, sticky business you can convince somebody to do with you. The changing the linens and whatnot are solved problems. (Some businessman-oriented places have a sealed plastic bag of bedclothes hung in the room... you have to do…

Actually, Yotel already do this: http://www.yotel.com/ I've used the Yotel inside the international transit area at Schiphol for jet lag purposes, during a 5-hour stopover on an intercontinental flight; it beats a recliner in a business lounge into a cocked hat for thouse 4-hour dead spots after a sleepless red-eye. I wish this idea would catch on at more hub airports!

Yotel is indeed great after a long flight. Guarulhos in Sao Paulo also had some semi-capsule accommodation.

Here is a picture from the Schiphol Yotel: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bergie/5818894255/in/photostrea...

Re: Sleepbox

#103

Post by brackin »

This is a great idea if not too expensive and implemented correctly. (Clean and wakes me up for my flight). I was trying to get my fairly liberal school to put hammocks in. I had a lesson at 9am and then at 2pm, sometimes I had little to do and left and returned.

Re: Sleepbox

#104

Post by what »

rdl wrote: post #91
edw519 wrote: post #84

I prefer the MVP I've been using in airports for years: - hoodie - ipod with white noise - mindfold mask (mindfold.com) - inflatable neck pillow - backpack with strap wrapped around my arm - empty gate of any soon-to-be-bankrupt airline It's already paid for, it works great (the mindfold is the secret, believe me), it weighs less that a pound, and I can use it on the plane too.

Do you not fly enough to have lounge access?

You can pay for lounge access, it's usually around $50. But you can get free wifi, eat and drink as much as you want, grab a paper, etc. Makes up for the cost.

Re: Sleepbox

#105

Post by dnissley »

jarek wrote: post #86
w1ntermute wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I never said that the cleanup fee should be buried. In fact, this is all hypothetical. By requiring payment by credit card, you'll hopefully eliminate prostitutes, drug users, and homeless people anyway. At that point, if you make the cleanup fee really obvious to customers, it may be feasible. And I don't know how common chargebacks for unethical purposes are, but neither me nor anyone I know has ever mentioned usin…

> By requiring payment by credit card, you'll hopefully eliminate prostitutes, drug users, and homeless people anyway. I'm not sure there's a way to distinguish a "regular" credit card from a prepaid store-bought "credit" card, which are easily obtained by the undesirables. Maybe you could try putting a thousand-dollar hold on the card for verification. Car rental could also be a good business to study for inspiratio…

It's usually possible to distinguish between a pre-paid credit card and a non-pre-paid card, depends on your software though.

A hold would work much better though -- for example, I don't keep a huge amount of money in my checking account which is what is connected to my debit card, and a $1k hold would fail usually. Mind you I'm in the U.S. where there's not a huge difference between debit/credit cards.

Re: Sleepbox

#106

Post by saadmalik01 »

ChuckMcM wrote: post #82

Great discussion, a lot of it centered around the difficulty of the clientele screwing up the place. But there are also a lot of assumptions going in which may not hold. So if you look at AirBnB, one of its 'features' is that all of the renters and sellers are pre-vetted (and yes this doesn't always work but it keeps problem people in the system low). Look at the 'clear' system for pre-screening air travelers. This s…

Actually, it's already available in Moscow airports: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14514816

Re: Sleepbox

#107

Post by veb »

nodata wrote: post #77
jawns wrote: post #11

Even if the pod is somewhat automated (e.g. linens are somehow changed without human intervention), you're not going to be able to get around the fact that you'll need someone to collect the dirty linens once in a while and replenish. And really, the tired business executive is the ideal customer ... but you're probably more likely to get a bunch of less-than-ideal customers whose actions inside the pod are going to…

1. Take a photo (or photos) before. 2. Take a photo afterwards. 3. Use a reputation system.

This could probably go a long way. You're talking about the pod taking a before picture, and then an after picture then using some computer-vision library to decide on positive/negative points for that stay? That could work quite well. Even have a cap to put over the camera lens when you're staying in it (for those tinfoil hat people).

I suppose positive points would mean you get a cheaper stay in another pod, and so on.

Re: Sleepbox

#108

Post by veb »

msh wrote: post #93
UnoriginalGuy wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're a weirdo then I am one too. I kind of want the sleeping thing from the movie Daredevil (tiny capsule where he sleeps in water so he can hear nothing). I could build one myself but I always live with people who might treat me like I was insane. But essentially a completely sound-proof little capsule where you can go in, close the door, set the temperature whatever you wish (18 degrees!), and then sleep witho…

That would kind of be a security problem, you can hear fire alarms or smell smoke. But I like the idea.

Can't you put a fire alarm inside the capsule?

Re: Sleepbox

#110

Post by rdl »

what wrote: post #104
rdl wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you not fly enough to have lounge access?

You can pay for lounge access, it's usually around $50. But you can get free wifi, eat and drink as much as you want, grab a paper, etc. Makes up for the cost.

Yeah -- the cheapest way if you fly a lot, yet have no status or good credit cards, in many airports, is Priority Pass -- $99/yr + $27/visit. Getting the $99/yr part free from low-tier credit cards is fairly common, too.

Amex Platinum (which, admittedly, is $450/yr) also gets you into a lot of lounges.

Founders Card gets you lounge access through mid-tier airline status on a few airlines (especially useful for Cathay Pacific, my favorite airline in the world).

I'd totally prefer a coach ticket + $50 lounge pass + + nice ipad and iphone and $500 headphones + nicer hotel room, food, car, etc. at destination, to paid first class tickets.

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