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Re: A flat pricing subscription for Claude Code

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Post by conception »

broof wrote: post #46
ramoz wrote: post #27

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Yes. For small apps, as well distributed systems. You have to puppeteer it and build a meta context/tasking management system. I spend a lot of time setting Claude code up for success. I usually start with Gemini for creating context, development plans, and project tasking outlines (I can feed large portions of codebase to Gemini and rely on its strategy). I’ve even put entire library docsites in my repos for Claude…

Can you share more about what you mean by a meta context/tasking management system? I’m always curious when I see people who have happily spent large amounts on api tokens.

So i use roo and you have the architecture mode draft out in as much detail as you want, plans, tech stack choices, todos, etc. Switch to orchestration mode to execute the plan, including verifying things are done correctly. It sub tasks out the todos. Tell it to not bother you unless it has a question. Cone back in thirty and see how it’s doing. You can have it commit to a branch per task if you want. Etc etc.

Re: A flat pricing subscription for Claude Code

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Post by ramoz »

broof wrote: post #46
ramoz wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes. For small apps, as well distributed systems. You have to puppeteer it and build a meta context/tasking management system. I spend a lot of time setting Claude code up for success. I usually start with Gemini for creating context, development plans, and project tasking outlines (I can feed large portions of codebase to Gemini and rely on its strategy). I’ve even put entire library docsites in my repos for Claude…

Can you share more about what you mean by a meta context/tasking management system? I’m always curious when I see people who have happily spent large amounts on api tokens.

Here is some insight... I had gemini obfuscate my business context so if something sounds weird it is probably because of that.

https://gist.github.com/backnotprop/4a07a7e8fdd76cbe054761b9...

The framework is basically the instructions and my general guidance for updating and ensuring the details of critical information get injected into context. some of those prompts I commented here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43932858

For most planning I use Gemini. I copy either the entire codebase (if less than ~200k tokens) or select only that parts that matter for the task in large codebases. I built a tool to help me build these prompts, keep the codebase organized well in xml structure. https://github.com/backnotprop/prompt-tower

Re: A flat pricing subscription for Claude Code

#103

Post by smartbit »

ramoz wrote: post #99
hcnews wrote: post #74

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Could you anonymize and share your last 5-10 prompts? Just wanna understand how people are using Claude Code.

These aren't that fun but sure. - https://gist.github.com/backnotprop/ca49f356bdd2ab7bb7a366ef... - https://gist.github.com/backnotprop/d9f1d9f9b4379d6551ba967c... - https://gist.github.com/backnotprop/e74b5b0f714e0429750ef6b0... - https://gist.github.com/backnotprop/91f1a08d9c27698310d63e06... - https://gist.github.com/backnotprop/7f7cb63aceb7560e51c02a9d... - https://gist.github.com/backnotprop/94080dde34bfca3dd9c4…

Interesting. Thanks.

Could you explain why there is no punctuation?

Re: A flat pricing subscription for Claude Code

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Post by ramoz »

smartbit wrote: post #103
ramoz wrote: post #99

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These aren't that fun but sure. - https://gist.github.com/backnotprop/ca49f356bdd2ab7bb7a366ef... - https://gist.github.com/backnotprop/d9f1d9f9b4379d6551ba967c... - https://gist.github.com/backnotprop/e74b5b0f714e0429750ef6b0... - https://gist.github.com/backnotprop/91f1a08d9c27698310d63e06... - https://gist.github.com/backnotprop/7f7cb63aceb7560e51c02a9d... - https://gist.github.com/backnotprop/94080dde34bfca3dd9c4…

Interesting. Thanks. Could you explain why there is no punctuation?

Ah yea sorry that is an export error... I copied prompts directly out of Claude Code and when I do that it copies all of the ascii/tui parts that wrap the message... I used some random "strip special chars" site to remove those and was lazy about adding actual punctuation back in.

Re: A flat pricing subscription for Claude Code

#105

Post by ramoz »

ramoz wrote: post #99
hcnews wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could you anonymize and share your last 5-10 prompts? Just wanna understand how people are using Claude Code.

These aren't that fun but sure. - https://gist.github.com/backnotprop/ca49f356bdd2ab7bb7a366ef... - https://gist.github.com/backnotprop/d9f1d9f9b4379d6551ba967c... - https://gist.github.com/backnotprop/e74b5b0f714e0429750ef6b0... - https://gist.github.com/backnotprop/91f1a08d9c27698310d63e06... - https://gist.github.com/backnotprop/7f7cb63aceb7560e51c02a9d... - https://gist.github.com/backnotprop/94080dde34bfca3dd9c4…

worth noting that some of the prompts are related to the project context management system i use: (obfuscated business details) https://gist.github.com/backnotprop/4a07a7e8fdd76cbe054761b9...

Re: A flat pricing subscription for Claude Code

#106

Post by ramoz »

edoceo wrote: post #75
satvikpendem wrote: post #58

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> the return is worth it I'm curious, what was the return? What did you do with the 1k?

Produce working code faster => ship faster => paid faster? That's the valu-prop right? So, naturally the $JOB will cover the bill.

something like that. Think "paid more" as well

Re: A flat pricing subscription for Claude Code

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Post by energy123 »

F7F7F7 wrote: post #29
slrainka wrote: post #24

Agent mode without rails is like a boat without a rudder. What worked for me was coming up with an extremely opinionated way to develop an application and then generating instructions (mini milestones) by combining it with the requirements. These instructions end up being very explicit in the sequence of things it should do (write the tests first), how the code should be written and where to place it etc. So the outp…

I've tried every variation of this very thing. Even managed to build a quick and dirty ticketing system that I could assign to the LLM of my choosing. WITH context. Talking Graph Codebase's diagrams, mappings, tree structure of every possibility, simple documentation, complex documentation, a bunch of OSS to do this very thing automatically etcetcetc. In the codebase I've tried modularity via monorepo, or faux micros…

How many tokens (across whole codebase) did it take for diminishing returns to kick in? What does the productivity vs token plot look like?

Re: A flat pricing subscription for Claude Code

#108

Post by senordevnyc »

_bin_ wrote: post #70
ramoz wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes. For small apps, as well distributed systems. You have to puppeteer it and build a meta context/tasking management system. I spend a lot of time setting Claude code up for success. I usually start with Gemini for creating context, development plans, and project tasking outlines (I can feed large portions of codebase to Gemini and rely on its strategy). I’ve even put entire library docsites in my repos for Claude…

I'd be really interested in seeing the source for this, if it's an open-source project, along with the prompts and some examples. Or other source/prompt examples you know of. A lot of people seem to have these magic incantations that somehow make LLMs work really well, at the level marketing and investor hype says they do. However, I rarely see that in the real world. I'm not saying this is true for you, but absent v…

Aider writes 70-80% of its own code: https://aider.chat/HISTORY.html

Re: A flat pricing subscription for Claude Code

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Post by NitpickLawyer »

_bin_ wrote: post #70
ramoz wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes. For small apps, as well distributed systems. You have to puppeteer it and build a meta context/tasking management system. I spend a lot of time setting Claude code up for success. I usually start with Gemini for creating context, development plans, and project tasking outlines (I can feed large portions of codebase to Gemini and rely on its strategy). I’ve even put entire library docsites in my repos for Claude…

I'd be really interested in seeing the source for this, if it's an open-source project, along with the prompts and some examples. Or other source/prompt examples you know of. A lot of people seem to have these magic incantations that somehow make LLMs work really well, at the level marketing and investor hype says they do. However, I rarely see that in the real world. I'm not saying this is true for you, but absent v…

While not directly what you're asking for, I find this link extremely fascinating - https://aider.chat/HISTORY.html

For context, this is aider tracking aider's code written by an LLM. Of course there's still a human in the loop, but the stats look really cool. It's the first time I've seen such a product work on itself and tracking the results.

Re: A flat pricing subscription for Claude Code

#110

Post by ramoz »

dttze wrote: post #55
BowBun wrote: post #47

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Is that final number really that crazy? With a well defined goal, you can put out 5-8K per day by writing code the old fashioned way. Also would love to see the code, since in my experience (I use Cursor as a daily driver), AI bloats code by 50% or more with unnecessary comments and whitespace especially when making full classes/files. > I spend a lot of time setting Claude code up for success. Normally I wouldn't po…

You'll never see the code. They will just say how amazingly awesome it is, how it will fundamentally alter how coding is done, etc... and then nothing. Then if you look into who posts it, they work in some AI related startup and aren't even a coder.

Not open source but depending on certain context i can show whoever. im not hard to find.

Ive done just about everything across the full & distributed stack. So I'm down to jam on my code/systems and how I instruct & rely on (confidently) AI to help build them.

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