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Zuckerberg's Grand Vision: Most of Your Friends Will Be AI

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Re: Zuckerberg's Grand Vision: Most of Your Friends Will Be AI

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Post by Balgair »

The longer portion from the Dwarkesh interview isn't as flashy as the article makes out. Mark is essentially saying in that interview that people need more friends, have room for them in their lives, and they struggle to keep them. Using AI to help you get real people to be your friends is the goal there, not to replace people.

That said, if you listen to the whole interview, then it really does come across that Zuck really doesn't know what a friend is, and never really has. And at this point in his life, I don't think that going to change. Dude lives in a house with meter thick RPG-proof windows. His reality very much is too distorted by his wealth. He's, literally, too rich to function.

Re: Zuckerberg's Grand Vision: Most of Your Friends Will Be AI

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Post by archagon »

harddrivereque wrote: post #47

I know it is a controversial topic, but do adults really need friends? I feel like "being friends" is something from middle school where our brains were different. Now, there are colleagues, there are neighbors, there is the partner that is supposedly our only and best friend, and optionally there are pets/kids. But proper friends? In my life and in the life of people that I observe regularly, there is no real need f…

If your partner is your best and only friend, not only are you putting far too much weight on one person to manage your emotional well-being, but you’ll be SOL if/when they leave, die, or become incapacitated.

Women, who tend to maintain more social connections, will often thrive without a partner in their old age. Men will often just kind of wither away.

Re: Zuckerberg's Grand Vision: Most of Your Friends Will Be AI

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Post by stuckinhell »

insane_dreamer wrote: post #98
stuckinhell wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We do but in this hypercompetitive landscape. Our friends are also competitors for partners, jobs, and resources. Which means you can't let non family members too close.

peak cynicism

working in silicon valley and the new york dc corridor does that I guess.

Re: Zuckerberg's Grand Vision: Most of Your Friends Will Be AI

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Post by pllbnk »

ben_w wrote: post #77
pkoird wrote: post #6

> “I think people are going to want a system that knows them well and that kind of understands them in the way that their feed algorithms do,” My god, he thinks people like their feed algorithm.

Not just that, but he's also got this weird idea that the feed algorithm understands people. Mine right now is: 1. Friend 2. Ad: Mothers day promotion — mine died years ago 3. People you may know 4. Someone commenting on a post shared by a friend, but FB didn't expand the post so I could actually read the comment, this was just an announcement that such a comment exists 5. Friend 6. Ad: jewellery 7. One of my own pos…

That's a really fun exercise. Mine shows: 1. A popular media personality I like and actually follow. The algorithm is sometimes OK with guessing the topmost post. 2. People you may know. 3. Some make-up advertisement by a Facebook user in one of the groups I'm in (totally irrelevant) 4. Some vaguely relevant news item about my city 5. A cute puppy 6. A vaguely relevant news item again 7. Irrelevant reels

Basically, my life hasn't been enriched by seeing the feed in any way. The one in the top spot was fine but I actively follow that person anyway and check their profile from time to time, so I wouldn't have missed it.

Re: Zuckerberg's Grand Vision: Most of Your Friends Will Be AI

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Post by hbn »

idkwhattocallme wrote: post #35
pkoird wrote: post #6

> “I think people are going to want a system that knows them well and that kind of understands them in the way that their feed algorithms do,” My god, he thinks people like their feed algorithm.

billions of people visit their feed hourly. I think it's fair to say that [some] people like their feed algorithm. edited to add [some]

They're addicted to getting angry, I would not call it enjoying

Re: Zuckerberg's Grand Vision: Most of Your Friends Will Be AI

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Post by antegamisou »

diggan wrote: post #38
pkoird wrote: post #6

> “I think people are going to want a system that knows them well and that kind of understands them in the way that their feed algorithms do,” My god, he thinks people like their feed algorithm.

> My god, he thinks people like their feed algorithm. So, besides this being hilariously out of touch, how come he (seemingly) believes this? Is this perhaps what he says to the public, while believing something else? Or surrounded himself with yes-people who won't actually tell him what they think? Or is he maybe just extrapolating this from usage data and assume because X hours of their day was spent on the feed, t…

It's really just a political statement, he's saying that you better get accustomed to being overworked that you'd only have time for parasocial relationships like these AI absurdities they're coming up with.

Re: Zuckerberg's Grand Vision: Most of Your Friends Will Be AI

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Post by const_cast »

diggan wrote: post #38
pkoird wrote: post #6

> “I think people are going to want a system that knows them well and that kind of understands them in the way that their feed algorithms do,” My god, he thinks people like their feed algorithm.

> My god, he thinks people like their feed algorithm. So, besides this being hilariously out of touch, how come he (seemingly) believes this? Is this perhaps what he says to the public, while believing something else? Or surrounded himself with yes-people who won't actually tell him what they think? Or is he maybe just extrapolating this from usage data and assume because X hours of their day was spent on the feed, t…

From the limited views we've had of Zuck, I think it's fair to conclude he's not really a people person.

I've noticed that rich and/or powerful people have a particular bias. They have a tendency to think their thought processes and preferences extend out to everyone, because they are successful and everyone wants to be successful.

I noticed this with RTO. I think a lot of executives genuinely, really thought it would improve our (ICs) jobs. Because think about what executives do. They sit around, talk to a bunch of people, make a bunch of decisions, and ultimately try to "sell" things. Well, that kind of stinks over zoom. So for them, it's true, RTO does make their job better. They can't really fathom, or maybe they just refuse to, what our job is. They don't sit there and walk a mile in our shoes.

For someone like Zuck, maybe this is how he would prefer his friends to be. That's kind of sad and pathetic, but what's even more sad is that he seems incapable of understanding other perspectives.

Re: Zuckerberg's Grand Vision: Most of Your Friends Will Be AI

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Post by const_cast »

harddrivereque wrote: post #47

I know it is a controversial topic, but do adults really need friends? I feel like "being friends" is something from middle school where our brains were different. Now, there are colleagues, there are neighbors, there is the partner that is supposedly our only and best friend, and optionally there are pets/kids. But proper friends? In my life and in the life of people that I observe regularly, there is no real need f…

Most adults, I've observed, don't even particularly like their partner.

I think we just become so comfortable and okay with not being happy that we can't identify we're not happy. Everything becomes a routine, everything is automatic. We maintain systems that ultimately don't benefit us because we're terrified of what would happen otherwise.

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