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AfD classified as extreme-right by German intelligence

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Re: AfD classified as extreme-right by German intelligence

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Post by alganet »

int_19h wrote: post #99
alganet wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What you said sounded like a bold claim. I just wanted to understand if you understand the implications of applying that label. I wanted to know if you understand the reason. I'm not gonna blindly fight based on a vague idea that history is repeating itself. Or should I? (rethorical). You seem like a very educated person with broad historical knowledge. Why use cheap accusations to put your ideas forward? (rethorical…

What is the bold claim? That fascists refer to themselves as "third position"? That's literally textbook history. Or that modern-day GOP, now fully taken over by the Christian nationalist wing, is also a "third position" party, and that is why their de facto platform (as evidenced by what they're literally doing right now) is the way it is? That's a simple observation.

Nothing. Forget about it.

Re: AfD classified as extreme-right by German intelligence

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Post by Tainnor »

AnimalMuppet wrote: post #26
thrance wrote: post #18

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This should tell you more about how far right America has gotten. What's your definition of extreme-right and why don't they fit it? Both the GOP and the AFD are acting extra-constitutionally. Trump's administration has shown to Europeans that needed a reminder how dangerous these politics can be.

Is the AfD acting extra-constitutionally? Or are they just proposing to do so? They aren't actually in power, are they? If not, how are they "acting" at all? (Not German, so I don't know. Honest questions from an incomplete understanding.)

> Is the AfD acting extra-constitutionally?

Late answer, but: they did actually abuse their power in an unconstitutional way after last year's elections to the state parliament of Thuringia. The eldest member of the parliament was from the AfD and as such he was given the traditionally ceremonial role of moderating the parliamentary proceedings until such time as an actual president was elected. With absolutely no legal basis to do so he tried to block the parliament from voting on certain matters. The other parties had to get the state constitutional court involved who very firmly ordered the AfD to let the parliament work as intended.

While the AfD complied with the ruling (I don't really see how they couldn't have) and the crisis was ultimately averted, one should make no mistake: this was a test to see if the democratic forces were still strong enough to oppose them. For now, they were.

Re: AfD classified as extreme-right by German intelligence

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flohofwoe wrote: post #82
tharmas wrote: post #61

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>accepting suspicious payments from Russia Do you really think the Russians would ever support a Neo Nazi party after what happened in WW2? That's propaganda.

The current Russian government supports every movement that may help to destabilize Europe, extreme left or extreme right ideologies only matter to them as a tool for targeting specific demographics by their propaganda industry.

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Re: AfD classified as extreme-right by German intelligence

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Post by tharmas »

tastyface wrote: post #85
tharmas wrote: post #61

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>accepting suspicious payments from Russia Do you really think the Russians would ever support a Neo Nazi party after what happened in WW2? That's propaganda.

Are you kidding? The Russian ruling class *adores* the global far-right. They don't see them as Nazis, but as kin.

And the West's support of Israel's IDF, how would you characterize that?
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