Surely you can download the extension from a mirror and install it manually(ie the "old fashioned way")?
OpenVSX, which VSCode forks rely on for extensions, down for 24 hours
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Re: OpenVSX, which VSCode forks rely on for extensions, down for 24 hours
#102I noticed this the other day when I installed VSCodium on my new Windows box. I had a functional setup for one day , then the next day I couldn't install a language extension I direly needed. It's left a very sour taste in my mouth. I've used Emacs for ages and despite being a much more niche editor, it's never been so hard-dependent on centralized repositories, and the centralized repositories it does have (ELPA/MEL…
Microsoft has never been pro open source, yet so many devs fell for their marketing lies.
Walmart used to claim they supported US businesses. A lot of people remember the ads and the native ads, especially in southern California when Wal-Mart was trying to make inroads there in the late 90s.
Walmart. Bringing back home. ™
The CEO even said the quiet part out loud in one of the commercials in the early 90s, roughly "we'll buy American products, unless they're lesser quality or more expensive" and trailed off, and the editors back then weren't as tuned in to corpo-speak or something.
Of course the countries with more lax environmental regulations and worker protections will have a cheaper product; the entire thing was a sham from the beginning.
Re: OpenVSX, which VSCode forks rely on for extensions, down for 24 hours
#103Earlier quoted context omitted.
> VSCode is Android Yes, an open source project that creates immense value, but fails to fulfill some purist fantasy.
I've yet to see any immense success based on the open source part of android. Its value and main goal is to suffocate any initiative on mobile space, call it immense if you will, but I concede it certainly works.
We can't possibly be Anti-competitive! We give it away for free! "
Re: OpenVSX, which VSCode forks rely on for extensions, down for 24 hours
#104Earlier quoted context omitted.
Theia is not a fork of vscode (even though it looks like it). It uses VSCode's code editor (Monoco) and is written from the ground up. Presumably allowing it to support extensions, that for example, vscode does not. However, its early days.
This doesn't answer my question in the slightest. What does it offer so nice that vscodium doesn't have and that would push me to switch to theia?
- Certain core, built-in plugins do still contact MS servers.
- Vscode has limited what extensions can do on the platform. MS own extensions can do things that others cannot.
- Theia extensions can do what oss vscode extensions cannot. Theia supports all the non-ms specific extension API's so it is fully compatible with all/most vscode extensions. But Theia goes further. Part of Theia's vision is that you could ship your own Theia, the whole platform is open.
So, Theia is a safer bet. There is no rug to pull.
Also, think about chrome chromium. When Google pushes for a new API that limits what ad-blockers can do, then Chromium has a problem. Because then it becomes a fork, as upstream becomes incompatible with chromium.
Re: OpenVSX, which VSCode forks rely on for extensions, down for 24 hours
#105Earlier quoted context omitted.
I was watching the "Simple Made Easy" talk by Rick Hickey, and while he was talking more about programming languages, the talk could extend easily to editors and other type of tooling. People are always going for easy, not simple. Vim is very simple (a composable language for editing, straightforward integration with cli tools, easily extendable,...). Emacs is simple (Major mode that dictates main operations and disp…
People will opt for what's accessible. Vim requires you to learn an alien control scheme to even navigate through code, and Emacs requires you to learn an incredibly unique programming language — one that sees no real world use, let's be honest — for basic tasks. Is it any surprise, then, that Microsoft had no issue swooping in and dominating the editor market when Emacs and Vim users believe that these are "features…
I am not proud to admit that basically the only thing I know how to do in vim is edit the network configuration so I can install nano - in much the same vein as using iexplore.exs to download firefox back in the day.
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#107Re: OpenVSX, which VSCode forks rely on for extensions, down for 24 hours
#108Lots of vim/emacs mentions so I feel obliged to mention Helix ( https://helix-editor.com/ ). Used neovim for _years_, tried Helix for a few weeks and never looked back
And Kakoune, if you're looking for something you can easily extend yourself.
Re: OpenVSX, which VSCode forks rely on for extensions, down for 24 hours
#109What are good, open source, alternatives to VS Code? That are modern IDEs with decent support for frontend, backend, data science, and embedded (possibly via extensions)? That mostly work out of the box, without having to set up and configure NN things.
They don't exist. If you want out-of-the-box, use Jetbrains and pay for it. If you want free-as-in-beer, VSCode proper. For free-as-in-speech you'll spend hours to learn/configure neovim/helix/emacs, or even hunting down free VSCodium plugins, I guess.
I think working on out-of-the-box experience is not very attractive for volunteer contributors, so I guess the situation won't change unless we find a way to sponsor that work.
Re: OpenVSX, which VSCode forks rely on for extensions, down for 24 hours
#110Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Pretty sure RMS would argue linux is less "open source" than emacs too. The word you're looking for is 'free'. Free as in freedom and free software. The open source philosophy focuses on the openness of the code base and the associated advantages. Free software philosophy highlights the freedom that the software gives its user on their devices . Opening the source code is just a means to that end for the free softw…
Speaking of, 4 freedoms might not be enough any more : https://elevenfreedoms.org/
4-10 all seem to just be special cases of 0-3. I guess making them explicit can be nice, but it seems overly complex to me.