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Re: Googler... ex-Googler

#101

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When someone’s life gets turned upside down, feeling sick to the stomach is a normal reaction.

Also keep in mind that the person who wrote this blog might be here on hacker news reading comments.

If you met this person in real life would you say those things to him? If the answer is no then why post those things here?

Re: Googler... ex-Googler

#102
post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For some perspective, the bulk of this is simply illegal in the Netherlands, likely other countries in the EU as well: - layoff plans must be communicated ahead of time. Minimum 30 days notice, usually much more - Needs to be negotiated with worker representatives (works council, syndicate if there is one) - LIFO principle for layoffs, newest employees are let go first. Stack ranking not possible - Any kind of discri…

> layoff plans must be communicated ahead of time. Minimum 30 days notice, usually much more In the United States, employers with more than 100 full-time, non-probationary employees must provide 60 days notice of most planned layoffs[0] > - LIFO principle for layoffs, newest employees are let go first. Stack ranking not possible This is functionally equivalent to a stack ranking in that it is a forced-distribution sc…

Companies in the US have been blatantly discriminating against some classes for years, and now must turn around and blatantly discriminate against other classes now (based on the current ‘anti-DEI’ stance). Racism and sexism in hiring in Europe and Asia has always been a thing, and quite blatant too.

Re: Googler... ex-Googler

#103

my take on this is that "2 week notice" should probably apply to businesses as well?

For what? He’s probably getting fantastic severance so his time is best spent on the next thing. The employer isn’t going to get more work - it’s not wise or safe to let layed off individuals roam around the office.

Re: Googler... ex-Googler

#104
FYI ex-Googler/Nerdy.dev !== OP

was surprised to see this here tbh as its something that was posted to the author's (again, author, not OP) bluesky which made it maybe not _personal_ personal-news but ... I don't know ... way more personal than all up in HN I dunno ... shrugs ...

Re: Googler... ex-Googler

#105
post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Usually there is a hidden variable that you don't know. This is frequently the case. I've worked at big employers (comparable in level of corporate-ness to Google if not absolute size) where the layoff process, roughly was: 1. Aggregate layoff target gets set and apportioned amongst functional leaders, then targets cascaded down to the line manager level. 2. Managers fill out a stack ranking spreadsheet for their t…

For some perspective, the bulk of this is simply illegal in the Netherlands, likely other countries in the EU as well: - layoff plans must be communicated ahead of time. Minimum 30 days notice, usually much more - Needs to be negotiated with worker representatives (works council, syndicate if there is one) - LIFO principle for layoffs, newest employees are let go first. Stack ranking not possible - Any kind of discri…

I think you need to look at some of the recent Dutch firing sprees and figure out if that'd actualy respected ;)

Re: Googler... ex-Googler

#106

The reality of one's lack of value to one's own employer is often baffling. It makes you wonder how anyone manages to stay employed at all, since apparently everyone is replicable and unimportant. I have been through layoffs where other people on my team, doing the same job I did approximately as well, got laid off. No explanation given for why them and not me. And it could happen to me at any time. It doesn't matter…

Layoffs in particular are like this because they're planned very quickly by very small groups of people. Rumors of impending layoffs obliterate morale, so the people in charge do everything they can to maintain secrecy and minimize the time between people hearing about layoffs and the layoffs taking effect. This basically always translates to random-seeming decisions - priority 1 is to cut costs by X amount, choosing…

Managers don't have the kind of information necessary to plan layoffs that don't seem random. Anything they know is already being used for the usual hiring/promotion/compensation adjustment process.

Re: Googler... ex-Googler

#108
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Does Google (or whoever is making these decisions) think that layoffs are in the long-term best interest of the company? If so, are they correct? Or is it related to the possibility that Google may have to divest itself of Chrome due to anti-trust enforcement?

Wake up, buddy. This is the neoliberal/neoclassical economy we are living in. They are pumping the books to make their quarterlies look good.

Pump the stock, deliver "shareholder value", and make billionaire class richer is the game. Oh, and also make room for stock buybacks of course!

Re: Googler... ex-Googler

#109

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When someone’s life gets turned upside down, feeling sick to the stomach is a normal reaction. Also keep in mind that the person who wrote this blog might be here on hacker news reading comments. If you met this person in real life would you say those things to him? If the answer is no then why post those things here?

I would actually yes say it to their face and I appreciate when someone says things like these to my face as well. Loss of perspective is a real thing and cause personal infernos with seeming no way out.

Re: Googler... ex-Googler

#110
Layoffs are a difficult thing for employees and their managers. I have seen people (one was a VP of Engineering) escorted out of the building, sent in a cab to home along with a security guard (this was in India), not allowed access to computer or talk with other employees. But, recently have had a very different experience. The current company I work for announced 30% layoffs. The list was made public within one hour of announcement. The CEO detailed the process of selecting people. The severance was very generous (3-6 months pay) along with health and other benefits. The impacted employees were allowed to keep the laptop and any other assets they took from the company. They even paid the same severance to contractors.

After the announcement, the laid off employees were given a few days in the company to allow them to say good byes. I love the CEOs comment on this ' I trusted them yesterday, I trust them today'. This was by far the kindest way of laying off employees imo. People were treated with dignity and respect.

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