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Oracle attempt to hide cybersecurity incident from customers?

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Re: Oracle attempt to hide cybersecurity incident from customers?

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Post by keyle »

redleggedfrog wrote: post #47
legitster wrote: post #40

If you are already a customer of Oracle, I can't imagine this matters to you. You did not choose Oracle because it was a good product and they are a good company. You are a customer of Oracle because there was a backroom executive deal with the Devil. No one is surprised or outraged or even has any choices.

As my buddy from Oracle likes to say, "No one cares what we do as long as the flow of streak, coke, and strippers doesn't stop." He's a big Zed Shaw fan.

"Oracle, where the Sun don't shine no more."

Re: Oracle attempt to hide cybersecurity incident from customers?

#102

Post by franktankbank »

LPisGood wrote: post #95
bigiain wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have absolutely no idea if you are being facetious or naive there. Yes. Oracle is absolutely the tech vendor that's going to be dropped on the engineering team with zero input and no consideration for whether it fits the problems they have, after your CTO spends a a few days on the golf course and high end steak restaurants and, depending on how much money their enterprise sales team thinks they have, either high c…

> I have absolutely no idea if you are being facetious or naive there. Neither, but perhaps worse: I am young. Are there any compilations of apocryphal stories of the events you described? It sounds too fantastic to be real.

You sound like Fortune 500 CTO material young man.

Re: Oracle attempt to hide cybersecurity incident from customers?

#103

Post by slater »

LPisGood wrote: post #95
bigiain wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have absolutely no idea if you are being facetious or naive there. Yes. Oracle is absolutely the tech vendor that's going to be dropped on the engineering team with zero input and no consideration for whether it fits the problems they have, after your CTO spends a a few days on the golf course and high end steak restaurants and, depending on how much money their enterprise sales team thinks they have, either high c…

> I have absolutely no idea if you are being facetious or naive there. Neither, but perhaps worse: I am young. Are there any compilations of apocryphal stories of the events you described? It sounds too fantastic to be real.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oracle_Corporation#Controversi...

Re: Oracle attempt to hide cybersecurity incident from customers?

#105

Post by chris_wot »

LPisGood wrote: post #95
bigiain wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have absolutely no idea if you are being facetious or naive there. Yes. Oracle is absolutely the tech vendor that's going to be dropped on the engineering team with zero input and no consideration for whether it fits the problems they have, after your CTO spends a a few days on the golf course and high end steak restaurants and, depending on how much money their enterprise sales team thinks they have, either high c…

> I have absolutely no idea if you are being facetious or naive there. Neither, but perhaps worse: I am young. Are there any compilations of apocryphal stories of the events you described? It sounds too fantastic to be real.

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Re: Oracle attempt to hide cybersecurity incident from customers?

#106

Post by Philpax »

bigiain wrote: post #87
FlyingSnake wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m sorry but I don’t get this Zed Shaw reference, what did I miss?

Weapons grade infinte snark, probably. He seems to have stopped blogging a few years back. I kinda miss his epic rants and Learning $whatever The Hard Way stuff. Part of me hopes them and whoever used to run n-gate moved to Portland and are now running a bespoke hand made piano business together or something.

I suspect that Zed and the n-gate author would not get along, given how ~~insufferable~~ opinionated the former is.

Re: Oracle attempt to hide cybersecurity incident from customers?

#107

Post by [deleted] »

redleggedfrog wrote: post #47
legitster wrote: post #40

If you are already a customer of Oracle, I can't imagine this matters to you. You did not choose Oracle because it was a good product and they are a good company. You are a customer of Oracle because there was a backroom executive deal with the Devil. No one is surprised or outraged or even has any choices.

As my buddy from Oracle likes to say, "No one cares what we do as long as the flow of streak, coke, and strippers doesn't stop." He's a big Zed Shaw fan.

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Re: Oracle attempt to hide cybersecurity incident from customers?

#108

Post by eru »

bigiain wrote: post #91
LPisGood wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>”enterprise sales process” I’m sorry, is Oracle known to be some super sleazy sales org that plys enterprise decision makers with strippers and cocktails, and drugs?

I have absolutely no idea if you are being facetious or naive there. Yes. Oracle is absolutely the tech vendor that's going to be dropped on the engineering team with zero input and no consideration for whether it fits the problems they have, after your CTO spends a a few days on the golf course and high end steak restaurants and, depending on how much money their enterprise sales team thinks they have, either high c…

> [...] I'm close to 100% certain those trips also include discreet photographers and hotel rooms wired with 4k video recording.

Luckily, AI is about to make that particular tactic ineffective:

When you can deepfake any video evidence, the original becomes useless.

Re: Oracle attempt to hide cybersecurity incident from customers?

#109

Post by eru »

slater wrote: post #103
LPisGood wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I have absolutely no idea if you are being facetious or naive there. Neither, but perhaps worse: I am young. Are there any compilations of apocryphal stories of the events you described? It sounds too fantastic to be real.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oracle_Corporation#Controversi...

OK, but this one is a pretty funny rebuttal:

> In 2000, Oracle attracted attention from the computer industry and the press after hiring private investigators to dig through the trash of organizations [...] When asked how he would feel if others were looking into Oracle's business activities, Ellison said: "We will ship our garbage to Redmond, and they can go through it. We believe in full disclosure."

Re: Oracle attempt to hide cybersecurity incident from customers?

#110

Post by eru »

autoexec wrote: post #8

There are various state laws that require companies to notify their customers of security breaches, but they lack enforcement/teeth so they're routinely ignored. It'll never happen in our current environment but we really need a federal law that causes violators enough pain that companies will actually bother to follow the law.

I don't get your argument.

Wouldn't adding teeth to the state laws be the right thing to do?

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