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Re: How Kerala got rich

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post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is what happens when literal communists run your government.

Honestly, reading this article, it's not making Kerala-style communism sound bad. What's more, they appear to have pivoted when they'd achieved their aims into making people richer. It's a classic "invest, then profit" story, only for an entire state.

The article is co-written by a member of Kerala's Planning Board and heavily oversells the state. I'd say Kerala is nowhere near rich so even the title is technically incorrect.

Re: How Kerala got rich

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Namaste!!! Kerala and all India states are very beautifull places of the India. I’d traveling there 3 months in 2017-2018 and only one seroius problem is everywhere, pollution of plastic and all kind of rubbish! Then people burn rubbish in fire! They vsn send space craft to out of the planet but not manage to recycle bio compost, glass bottles and metal cans ext.. people throw to nature all rubbish!! So it is time to stand up and start recycling everything and then edugate all peoples to do that in every day but most importat is fix the infra for recycling. Come to see that procedure in scandinavia!! Compost material is super hood soil for growing yes oy is very easy when goverment is make a infra for ready. I have living all together 1.5 year in India 1990’s and 2017-2018 so have a good understund of Indian way to live and one part of my body and soul is always living and love mama India and humans of every hierarcy andcö relious parts… sorry typo ext.. greetings from Finland!! Dhanyavaad!!

Re: How Kerala got rich

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post #61

Kerala has extremely aggressive out-migration (including my entire family): it is a bad place to be ambitious, particularly with the France-like union culture. If India is to become China-rich or Mexico-rich, my prediction is Kerala will regress to the mean of India states. Its model seems geared towards being an extremely good place to be poor (which is a huge achievement to be clear: they dealt with COVID better th…

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Re: How Kerala got rich

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Same old fake caste tropes, article just smells of academic nonsense. The story of Keralas success could be applied to any state in India due to recent government policies, even Gujarat is doing better.

you may be right that the economic development of Kerala in the last 2-3 decades could be because of India's overall economic development. But note that Kerala is consistently in the lead to many indian states, including Gujarat, in terms of Human Development Index. Gujarat continues to lag on HDI despite being historically economically richer than Kerala:

- 2011: HDI in India rises by 21%: Kerala leads, Gujarat far behind - https://www.firstpost.com/india/hdi-in-india-rises-by-21-ker...

- 2011: Malnutrition mars Gujarat's growth story: HDI Report - https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/ahmedabad/malnutrit...

- 2017: Gujarat lags behind developed states if HDI parameters are compared: P Chidambaram - https://www.financialexpress.com/india-news/gujarat-lags-beh...

- 2021: If Gujarat is a model, then the real toppers in development indicators, like Kerala and Tamil Nadu, must be supermodels - https://www.thehindu.com/opinion/op-ed/the-gujarat-middle/ar...

- 2021: HDI: How States Fare in Human Development - https://ceda.ashoka.edu.in/hdi-how-states-fare-in-human-deve...

Re: How Kerala got rich

#105
post #61

Kerala has extremely aggressive out-migration (including my entire family): it is a bad place to be ambitious, particularly with the France-like union culture. If India is to become China-rich or Mexico-rich, my prediction is Kerala will regress to the mean of India states. Its model seems geared towards being an extremely good place to be poor (which is a huge achievement to be clear: they dealt with COVID better th…

I'm curious, how does their "aggressive out-migration" play out? Extremely high, progressive tax system? No funding infrastructure for new business? I can imagine many ways but my thoughts lean toward financial reasons due to your last sentence.

Inability to build a business easily nor allow others to build one. The union culture is way too strong. There is a joke that the Kerala model of development requires a rich oil state nearby.

Re: How Kerala got rich

#106
post #82

Turns out investing in your own people returns dividends. Unfortunately, the current administration is divesting from the American people. DOGE, and it's cutting of federal grants is a direct example of this divestment. What's happening now in the US reminds me a lot of a mixture of Gorbachev and Yeltsin, where the Chicago economists came in and their shock therapy and large divestment decimated the wealth and health…

>Turns out investing in your own people returns dividends. Unfortunately, the current administration is divesting from the American people.

As we see, in the case of America, these dividends are much larger. So much larger that they are not even comparable to what is described in the article.

>mixture of Gorbachev and Yeltsin, where the Chicago economists came in and their shock therapy and large divestment

But that's not what happened in the USSR. Gorbachev simply make government open and transparent for people, rejected totalitarian oppression, and it immediately became clear that the party had almost zero support.

And since it is impossible to have near-zero support without totalitarian oppression, the tops of the Communist Party (led by Yeltsin) decided to go cash out and simply divided among themselves all the assets under the party's control.

That's it. It had nothing to do with Chicago economist and shock therapy, which was just an excuse for dividing government assets.

And it's not like wealth and health of ordinary people suffered to any significant degree. It's just that before Gorbachev and Yeltsin all the statistics were fake, and people were repressed for contradicting it. But after the coup, no one cared. In fact, the only ones at a loss were middle level party bureaucrats, who did not have any real assets under their control, but occupied an extremely privileged position in the Soviet system and parasitizing on the body of an oppressed society.

Re: How Kerala got rich

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Namaste!!! Kerala and all India states are very beautifull places of the India. I’d traveling there 3 months in 2017-2018 and only one seroius problem is everywhere, pollution of plastic and all kind of rubbish! Then people burn rubbish in fire! They vsn send space craft to out of the planet but not manage to recycle bio compost, glass bottles and metal cans ext.. people throw to nature all rubbish!! So it is time to…

I'll have what he's having

Re: How Kerala got rich

#108
post #39

India has a vast variation of cultures. A few states in India look like they are quite detached from mainstream India, in terms of issues, economy, norms, politics etc. This is true for north-eastern states as well and probably J&K too. It's like a colorful patch-work of different cultures. However, there is nothing good or bad with these variations. Tourism also adds to its economy. Higher per-capita doesn't always…

This statement > India has a vast variation of cultures. isn’t consistent with this. > mainstream India

Mean and variance

Re: How Kerala got rich

#109
post #69

y is this on HN first page? by wat measure is Kerala rich? No industries if exports bodies to ME, commie rule for decades atrophied all industry. It's a political hitjob against India central gov, HN should keep its standard above this shitshow

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Re: How Kerala got rich

#110
post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honestly, reading this article, it's not making Kerala-style communism sound bad. What's more, they appear to have pivoted when they'd achieved their aims into making people richer. It's a classic "invest, then profit" story, only for an entire state.

The article is co-written by a member of Kerala's Planning Board and heavily oversells the state. I'd say Kerala is nowhere near rich so even the title is technically incorrect.

When COVID was spreading around china the state govt was putting out public announcements about this disease and what symptoms to watch out for. I remember that even in the month of Feb 2020 there were public announcements in train stations. There is a lot of emphasis on education and health in the state. Granted it may not be rich as other states but it leads other states in a lot of other markers
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