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Re: Most promoted and blocked domains on Kagi

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Post by richardw »

fumufumufumu wrote: post #85

What I gather from this is few if any non-software devs use Kagi 8 of the top 10 "raised" sites are software dev sites and with #6 being MDN I'm guessing it's not just any software devs, is web developers specifically that use Kagi. Am I drawing the wrong conclusion? Does that mean Kagi's days are numbered? What would it take for them to get enough non-web-devs that the top 10 raised looked more representative of the…

That’s a great segment to target. I’d take that any day over most others. It’s also a pretty hard bunch to please, so pretty defensible unless you somehow beat Kagi by a lot.

It’s also much bigger than their customer base. Keep going, Kagi.

Re: Most promoted and blocked domains on Kagi

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Post by zvitiate »

fumufumufumu wrote: post #85

What I gather from this is few if any non-software devs use Kagi 8 of the top 10 "raised" sites are software dev sites and with #6 being MDN I'm guessing it's not just any software devs, is web developers specifically that use Kagi. Am I drawing the wrong conclusion? Does that mean Kagi's days are numbered? What would it take for them to get enough non-web-devs that the top 10 raised looked more representative of the…

I’m one of them. I love Kagi, although the first week or two had a ton of !g. Now I only really bang for local areas, conversions, or shopping (maybe).

If they can sustain, maybe they can takeoff. Search in GenAI world is hard, and Google has other focuses with talent and inference chips too.

I hope their days aren’t numbered!

I think it needs some UI improvements. It’s ugly, and I find it can hinder actual use.

More usability improvements on features. There’s a lot I’m still not leveraging because I haven’t bothered learning. Maybe they can build an LLM tool to help with this?

And I don’t care how, but make it easy to make it default on all browsers, mobile mainly. Maybe they fixed this recently, but when I was swapping browsers recently, this was annoying. If they can’t fix this, they probably won’t make it.

Just some top of mind thoughts as high-usage, 95%+ non-coding user.

Re: Most promoted and blocked domains on Kagi

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Post by mediumsmart »

mastercheif wrote: post #56
Brajeshwar wrote: post #46

Two different views for logged-in users and public. I realize that it has a different view from a different non-logged-in browser (or incognito). I stopped wearing T-Shirt swags from companies quite a while back. Recently, I thought of promoting Kagi and wore the T-Shirt they sent at a few meet-ups, office spaces with lots of tech-people and no-one recognize it. A few of them thought, when we talked, if the logo is f…

Such a huge miss not including the name of the company on the shirts. It could be a fitness logo for all anyone knows.

You’d be right if it wasn’t a search engine.

Re: Most promoted and blocked domains on Kagi

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Post by eddythompson80 »

hx8 wrote: post #8
neilv wrote: post #7

I love that wiki.archlinux.org is a top-Pinned. I'm firmly a Debian shop, but I find that the Arch Linux wiki often answers non-distro-specific questions that I have about how to do something on Debian. (Especially since I'm usually using Xmonad without a lot of the "desktop environment" stuff.)

The Arch Linux Wiki has some awesome information, but it's a little too informal for it to be a go-to for me. It's information is incomplete, opinionated, and sometimes has a "works on my machine" sort of a vibe. But sometimes it just has the answer you need in an easily digestible format. Top 10 source for me, but not a top 3. -- Some nerd with almost two decades of distro-hopping experience.

I often wish there was a date attached to the articles there. I get that a wiki format is ever evolving and as a result there isn’t necessarily a meaningful date that could be added. However, unlike an article about Jupiter, carbon fiber or WW2 on Wikipedia, the date for when a guide was written about Power Management on Linux is very relevant. I often find myself trying to sort of deduce that from the history page, then I fail then I have to go look up if that information is in fact the most recent.

Re: Most promoted and blocked domains on Kagi

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Post by LoganDark »

fumufumufumu wrote: post #85

What I gather from this is few if any non-software devs use Kagi 8 of the top 10 "raised" sites are software dev sites and with #6 being MDN I'm guessing it's not just any software devs, is web developers specifically that use Kagi. Am I drawing the wrong conclusion? Does that mean Kagi's days are numbered? What would it take for them to get enough non-web-devs that the top 10 raised looked more representative of the…

Kagi's days are probably not numbered because of web devs (web devs are not going away any time soon, even with advancements in LLMs) but rather because of the indexes they use, or rather don't use.

Kagi is fairly good at ranking results and essentially making do with what they have, but in my experience it does not seem very good at all for searching for anything particularly obscure. It's like how DuckDuckGo uses Bing - nearly useless if you're not searching popular sites (like Wikipedia, MDN, etc.)

Re: Most promoted and blocked domains on Kagi

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Post by saghm »

neilv wrote: post #20
hx8 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Arch Linux Wiki has some awesome information, but it's a little too informal for it to be a go-to for me. It's information is incomplete, opinionated, and sometimes has a "works on my machine" sort of a vibe. But sometimes it just has the answer you need in an easily digestible format. Top 10 source for me, but not a top 3. -- Some nerd with almost two decades of distro-hopping experience.

Yeah, I don't expect comprehensive and definitive documentation from it, nor copy&paste answers. But for getting pointed in the right direction about things that have been obscured by the desktop environments, and then left largely undocumented nowadays, the Arch Linux wiki usually points me in the right direction. Much of it would be pretty confusing to someone who only wanted high-level documentation in terms of th…

> But for getting pointed in the right direction about things that have been obscured by the desktop environments, and then left largely undocumented nowadays, the Arch Linux wiki usually points me in the right direction.

Even as an Arch user, probably at least 80% of my usage of the Arch Wiki is just going through "Troubleshooting" list of previously seen issues and solutions for whatever thing I'm dealing with. I don't go in expecting that everything will work exactly the same for me, but over the years I've ended up with quite a few headaches solved by pasting the right line in the right conf from one of those sections.

Re: Most promoted and blocked domains on Kagi

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Post by eddythompson80 »

omoikane wrote: post #70
titaphraz wrote: post #19

Pintrest owns all the top 7 blocked results. Good, they've earned it. I never understood why Google let them destroy Google Image search results.

Apparently Pinterest has half a billion users[1], presumably significant number of those appreciate those search results. I am also going to guess that there is little overlap between those 500M users with HN's 5M users[2] or Kagi's 43K users[3]. So while those results-gated-behind-logins might seem annoying to us, we are in the minority. [1] https://www.statista.com/statistics/463353/pinterest-global-... [2] https:/…

I remember a few years before Pinterest’s IPO, there were random statistics flowing around about how unique of a demographic Pinterest had compared to the rest of the internet. It’s mostly female dominated compared to the rest of the male dominated internet. Not just any female demographic either, but upper middle class, high income, young women †. There was simply no other online service that had that as its main demographic to the degree that Pinterest did. I remember thinking that must be a really attractive target for online advertisers and maybe I should keep an eye out for the IPO. Luckily I forgot. Its stock has been mostly lackluster.

†: hell son that was during my dating years. I was going on a lot of dates with women specifically in that demographic. Once I got to know a woman I would research her on google while narrowing my search to Pinterest. Out of 20 or so women I recall there were only 2 that didn’t have Pinterest accounts. The rest had, very active, Pinterest accounts.

Re: Most promoted and blocked domains on Kagi

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Post by djhn »

harrall wrote: post #100
omoikane wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apparently Pinterest has half a billion users[1], presumably significant number of those appreciate those search results. I am also going to guess that there is little overlap between those 500M users with HN's 5M users[2] or Kagi's 43K users[3]. So while those results-gated-behind-logins might seem annoying to us, we are in the minority. [1] https://www.statista.com/statistics/463353/pinterest-global-... [2] https:/…

I like Pinterest a lot. I find art, tattoo ideas, home decor, concrete/wood builds, clothing fits, wedding themes… It’s like a one-stop-shop when you need some fresh ideas on design.

It also has a ludicrously smooth and fast UX and makes it possible to access the high resolution original photographs (up to 100+ megapixels) by modifying url parameters.

Re: Most promoted and blocked domains on Kagi

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Post by eddythompson80 »

Sxubas wrote: post #42

Why is healthline so high on the block/lower list? (Excluding Pinterest) IMO I like the fact that they link sources to their claims, which is very rare on the current web. I think of it as a somewhat trustable source of information. Am I wrong?

Could be because healthline blocks most VPNs and manifest-based ad blockers. Kagi users are basically HN users.
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