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Canada considering charging for road access from USA to Alaska

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Re: Canada considering charging for road access from USA to Alaska

#101

I'm kinda surprised they haven't been doing this all along, or at least something to recover revenue from US folks using their roads to travel between the US but not contributing much to the economy in between.

Presumably they were happy about the gasoline revenues and hotel stops.

Re: Canada considering charging for road access from USA to Alaska

#102
post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Trans-Canada regularly closes? That's news to me. The reason google maps goes through the US is that it's significantly shorter. We also don't haul things regularly across the country in the same way they do in the US, we use the trains, and the majority of things would go through ports. If you're on the eastern half of the country (which is the majority of the country) they use the great lakes.

It's also not actually true there's only one. To get through northern Ontario, sure. But there's also the Yellowhead all the way from Winnipeg to Haida Gwai, and plenty of highways that connect to Hwy 2 from there. Trans-Canada is a highway system, not a single road. It's true that the stretch from Kenora to Sault Ste Marie is a vulnerability. It's tough terrain.

It's only Kenora to Nipigon that's vulnerable, there's a decent road between Nipigon and Ottawa. Some prefer it because it's flatter.

Re: Canada considering charging for road access from USA to Alaska

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post #7

I’m surprised all the countries the US is trying to bully aren’t considering moving to the Euro as the reserve currency (even China might go along with this). It would be so damaging for the US they might actually understand they have been benefiting from a win-win situation since the end of the Second World War.

Consider that this is the point of all the machinations. The US having the reserve currency is a liability in many ways and the direct reason why it's a consumer not producer economy.

Losing reserve status will be damaging to some parts of the american economy and create a boom in others.

Take a look at what current tariffs are across the world. The US isn't necessarily bullying as equalizing.

Re: Canada considering charging for road access from USA to Alaska

#105
post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> dismissed both as ridiculous I think this idealism/naiveness is why you're now sliding further and further away from democracy. Older countries already had their democracies stress-tested, but seemingly this is the biggest test so far for the "checks and balances" in the US, and I feel like many other countries learned to always live with idea that democracy can slip away really quickly unless you always pay attent…

How do you reconcile that idea with the fact that the United States is the oldest country with a continuously running democracy?

You'd have to do some contortions on the current definition of "democracy" for that to be true. For most of it's history, not everyone could vote, and if that's your bar then democracy in the US is... returning to it's roots.

Re: Canada considering charging for road access from USA to Alaska

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post #81

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If it was just the trade spat, you might be right. But there's also Trump repeatedly talking about annexing Canada. That goes well beyond a trade spat, and I would absolutely expect Canada to do more in response because that is in the mix. Including actively working to reduce their dependency on US-sourced or US-transiting products.

At the very least you would expect them to start looking at other sources for arms.

Absolutely. Canada is almost certainly going to cancel or severely limit a pending F35 order, and is actively sourcing aircraft and negotiating mutual arms deals with European partners.

Re: Canada considering charging for road access from USA to Alaska

#107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's also not actually true there's only one. To get through northern Ontario, sure. But there's also the Yellowhead all the way from Winnipeg to Haida Gwai, and plenty of highways that connect to Hwy 2 from there. Trans-Canada is a highway system, not a single road. It's true that the stretch from Kenora to Sault Ste Marie is a vulnerability. It's tough terrain.

It's only Kenora to Nipigon that's vulnerable, there's a decent road between Nipigon and Ottawa. Some prefer it because it's flatter.

Being from southern Ontario near Toronto, I naturally can't even imagine going that way ;-)

Re: Canada considering charging for road access from USA to Alaska

#108

I've seen two apocalyptic North American scenarios in fiction, and have previously dismissed both as ridiculous. 1. In the Fallout universe, the USA annexes Canada 2. In at least two Neal Stephenson novels (Snowcrash and Termination Shock), the USA has collapsed. I've never before thought that either of these would have a semi-realistic path to actually happening.

I think "annexing" Canada seems a bit ludicrous still. I have no doubt Trump wants to expand, but I suspect such expansion would be deeply unpopular in a country proud, seemingly for the grace of simply not being the US (as, let's be honest, Canada is far more similar to the US than it is to any other country in north america).

Re: Canada considering charging for road access from USA to Alaska

#109
post #63
post #7

I’m surprised all the countries the US is trying to bully aren’t considering moving to the Euro as the reserve currency (even China might go along with this). It would be so damaging for the US they might actually understand they have been benefiting from a win-win situation since the end of the Second World War.

Why does having the reserve country benefit america? Because it enables us to run unsustainable deficits? Is that good for Americans in the long run?

Yes.

* The US is able to get very cheap loans, which enables the US to throw around money when necessary to do things that are important (emergency projects, economic stabilization, etc).

* The US has an extraordinary power to influence global politics due to their ability to control trade and banking systems.

* The US dollar is stable in part because of its status as a trade currency. And a stable currency is extremely important for citizens of a country.

> Because it enables us to run unsustainable deficits?

No, it it actually the primary reason that enables the US to run huge deficits sustainably. The currency is important enough to the world that giving a loan to the US is safer than giving one to another country whose currency is not as important.

Re: Canada considering charging for road access from USA to Alaska

#110
post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> dismissed both as ridiculous I think this idealism/naiveness is why you're now sliding further and further away from democracy. Older countries already had their democracies stress-tested, but seemingly this is the biggest test so far for the "checks and balances" in the US, and I feel like many other countries learned to always live with idea that democracy can slip away really quickly unless you always pay attent…

How do you reconcile that idea with the fact that the United States is the oldest country with a continuously running democracy?

Why aren't you counting San Marino?
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