So Softbank now competes with Arm's customers and (unless I've missed something on new governance arrangements) also gets access to confidential information on Arm's customers' businesses (plans, volumes etc). Hmmm.
SoftBank Group to Acquire Ampere Computing for 6.5B
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Re: SoftBank Group to Acquire Ampere Computing for 6.5B
#102Earlier quoted context omitted.
AMD has an entire line of ARM chips and there's an ARM in every x86 CPU they make. They've been making ARM chips for a long long time. https://www.amd.com/en/products/adaptive-socs-and-fpgas/soc.... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMD_Platform_Security_Processo...
I assume the question is why AMD is not making EPYC or Ryzen processors with Arm cores for the application processors. AMD continuing to have the Xilinx line of FPGAs with some Cortex cores and having Arm management cores that run firmware doesn’t really address this.
amd64 is still the default platform for desktop and server software. You can have arguments about the ISA, but for the most part that doesn't actually matter; amd64 is good enough, upstart cpu makers choose ARM not because it's better than amd64, but because it's at least good enough and licenses are available.
[1] https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-we-stand-ready-to-make...
Re: SoftBank Group to Acquire Ampere Computing for 6.5B
#103Re: SoftBank Group to Acquire Ampere Computing for 6.5B
#104Earlier quoted context omitted.
What about https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/mac-pro/rack#
Bro, come on. Apple hasn't even tried to pretend they're in the server game for at least a decade now. You're paying for dozens of features you'll never use. They don't even have drivers for their own hardware outside of fucking windows , let alone documentation about how their machines are intended to work. I love my macs but apple will never be a cost or reliability solution to computation unless they do a complete…
Then again, the more I think on it, the worse an idea it is. Too locked-in and out for being able to run the likes of Jellyfin, etc. It could be a good option for a "Server" mac.. but would still make more sense for it to run Linux as a base.
Re: SoftBank Group to Acquire Ampere Computing for 6.5B
#105Ampere is still the only people making a decent purchaseable ARM server. Not loving the idea of there being a bunch of new debt hovering over them now.
I use their servers in a couple of cloud environments. That little things are snappy, for what I have given them as tasks. Wish them best of luck to the future.
Re: SoftBank Group to Acquire Ampere Computing for 6.5B
#106TIL .softbank is a TLD now
Opening up TLDs beyond the originals and CCTLDs completely invalidated assumptions about what domains and domain names should mean. A massive disservice to everyone whose intuition was helping them avoid scams and squatting, but hey, at least a lot of money changed hands.
Re: SoftBank Group to Acquire Ampere Computing for 6.5B
#107Earlier quoted context omitted.
Given Oracle's tendency to use pillows on processor architectures and bury them at night, Softbank is possibly the better of two evils? Jokes aside, I don't believe Oracle would evolve the A1s beyond what they need, and stagnate them for years instead.
I think SB might've upped the bid a bit extra with Oracle as the other suitor. With Graviton and Ampere processors owned by hyperscalers it would've been a very unfortunate time for the ARM server market to become stagnant. Right now ARM is in a golden position to take server market pieces, higher compute densities with simpler i-set and good software support thanks to years of mobile and now Apple support (most lang…
Re: SoftBank Group to Acquire Ampere Computing for 6.5B
#108Earlier quoted context omitted.
I assume the question is why AMD is not making EPYC or Ryzen processors with Arm cores for the application processors. AMD continuing to have the Xilinx line of FPGAs with some Cortex cores and having Arm management cores that run firmware doesn’t really address this.
AMD said in 2021 that they were ready to build ARM chips[1], but honestly, I don't see the market for it. AMD could put an ARM frontend on Ryzen (and various interviews said they've prototyped it), but I don't think it would make a significant difference in compute/watt or whatever other metric, and there's not much in the way of ARM only software that people want to run. Maybe macOS, but you can still run that on am…
Re: SoftBank Group to Acquire Ampere Computing for 6.5B
#109Ampere is still the only people making a decent purchaseable ARM server. Not loving the idea of there being a bunch of new debt hovering over them now.
What about https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/mac-pro/rack#
Re: SoftBank Group to Acquire Ampere Computing for 6.5B
#110Are we peak ARM yet? Jokes aside, with coming decline in x86, why is AMD so slow to introduce ARM products?
AMD has an entire line of ARM chips and there's an ARM in every x86 CPU they make. They've been making ARM chips for a long long time. https://www.amd.com/en/products/adaptive-socs-and-fpgas/soc.... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMD_Platform_Security_Processo...