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Pirate Bay co-founder Carl Lundström has died

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Re: Pirate Bay co-founder Carl Lundström has died

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> Sweden covers large parts of the traditional homelands of non-Swedish people. How does this lead to the conclusion that Swedish ethno-nationalism is bad?

They as others are making the point that racism is bad, you keep justifying it because Swedish people are white

Thinking that a Swedish Sweden is racist is racist. Do better.

Re: Pirate Bay co-founder Carl Lundström has died

#102
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In the ethno-nationalistic sense, Sweden is not a nation state. In its current reality, Sweden is ethnically diverse and it (partially) covers the homelands of several peoples/"nations" in the ethno-nationalistic sense. The latter issue could, e.g., be solved by giving up most of what the Swedes in the South call Norrland. This would deplete "Sweden" of natural resources and make it even more dependent on high-skille…

If Sweden isn't Swedish because ~30k Sami live there, then China isn't Chinese because 50K Uzbeks live there. You're not arguing that Sweden isn't a nation-state, you're arguing that nation states don't exist, which is just silly.

You are introducing a straw-man argument here (that obviously ignores basic facts about population sizes of Sweden and China, so it's wrong on both meta- and object-level). But following that line of reasoning, Sweden is not an ethnostate because the Swedish population is ethnically diverse. E.g., more than a third of the population are either foreign-born or have at least one foreign-born parent. At the same time, the current borders of Sweden cover more than the traditional homeland of your preferred "Swedes". So apparently, you are actually arguing for a racist empire. Demographic reality is not your friend, though. Perhaps you will have more success some generations down the road. Try to sell the same story to the ethnically substantially different group of people who will consider themselves "Swedes" then.

Re: Pirate Bay co-founder Carl Lundström has died

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> In 2018, he was sentenced, together with his accomplice, to pay half a million kronor in damages to the two women he helped rape. But since he could not pay any damages, it was instead the taxpayers who were forced to pay it for him. This is what the plaintiff's lawyer for one of the two raped women tells Samnytt. So the first issue was that the government stepped in to give his victims money. I hope that the gover…

It's worse though - that it turned out his documents were falsified and he lied about his age - https://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/a/JxGBa4/felet-i-bevisnin... So he had fraudulently received that money too.

> A document examiner at the Swedish Migration Agency says in Uppdrag granskning that she has never seen a passport with that validity period before, which could indicate that it is a fake passport.

Hmm... an unnamed source.

> "I believe we made the assessment that the review that the border police did of the passport was the one we presented to the court", says prosecutor Kristina Amilon to Uppdrag granskning.

vs a formal representative of the government.

So maybe faked but doesn't sound like there's actually accepted evidence. If faked, of course that exposes him to further legal liability which should be used to prosecute him further since he defrauded the government (+ get back the money).

This is why I stay away from tabloids - the reporting quality is extremely poor & intentionally sensationalized and often precisely to try to mislead you.

Re: Pirate Bay co-founder Carl Lundström has died

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How is that not racism

By this logic I suppose you would also be opposed to black power movements or certain African nationalist tendencies? White is more than just one bland, interchangeably generic ethnicity/race. It's hundreds of millions of people of many ethnicities and they have no less right to celebrate these cultural roots than anyone else. It's a shame to see so many of them cheaply labeled as white nationalist ergo Nazis even if…

You conveniently left out the context and are looking at these issues in a vacuum, which is an ahistorical false equivalence and not based in reality. The black power movements are born out of minority resistance to a society which used to trade those humans as property. What you are describing is a "white" society extending its domination over all other people in a "nation", ergo Nazism.

Re: Pirate Bay co-founder Carl Lundström has died

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The joy of driving artists and musicians into bankruptcy is more important than any of that, apparently.

> The joy of driving artists and musicians into bankruptcy is more important than any of that, apparently. Comments like these distract from the larger point you're making because they misrepresent the nature of the effect that TPB (and similar services) actually have had on artists, and on the historical relationship between artists and the capital class throughout history. It's a common misconception that fileshari…

Torrenting led me to find many bands I wouldn’t have, and that led me to buying tickets and merch I otherwise wouldn’t own. Those things help artists more than anything afaik, torrenting has been a boon. I’d wager if you go up to someone in a band after a show and ask how they feel about you pirating their album, the response would be along the lines of “I really don’t care, you’re here aren’t you?”

Re: Pirate Bay co-founder Carl Lundström has died

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Carl Lindström's political ideology was also inseparable from his life's work.

> Carl Lindström's political ideology was also inseparable from his life's work. I made no claim about him one way or the other in this regard. That said, if you're going to make the claim that his political ideology was inseparable from his work (in direct contrast to most of the other comments here which say they should be kept separate), then it's worth spelling out why people would celebrating the work of a man w…

>should be kept separate

I think people in this thread have already spelled it out. They appreciate The Pirate Bay and what it stands for.

Re: Pirate Bay co-founder Carl Lundström has died

#107

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They as others are making the point that racism is bad, you keep justifying it because Swedish people are white

Thinking that a Swedish Sweden is racist is racist. Do better.

Your comments are getting flagged because of how you are pretending your racist comments are legitimate

Re: Pirate Bay co-founder Carl Lundström has died

#108

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How is that not racism

By this logic I suppose you would also be opposed to black power movements or certain African nationalist tendencies? White is more than just one bland, interchangeably generic ethnicity/race. It's hundreds of millions of people of many ethnicities and they have no less right to celebrate these cultural roots than anyone else. It's a shame to see so many of them cheaply labeled as white nationalist ergo Nazis even if…

the people you support have highly offensive slogans
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